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Old 20 June 2013, 17:10   #11
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I don't know exactly what the lettering is, but they are self adhesive like van graphics but much more flexible material for use on inflatable tubes that will be left mostly deflated - I had to specify this when ordering and discussed the options with graphics company who are specialists in marine and aviation graphics.
Ok i understnd now , maybe acetone would be a bit harsh , the first application cleand the surface really well the second seemed to remove the surface a little .

The other cleaner i used was PVC window cleaner , its cheap and available from diy shops , smells very strong but cleaned the tubes really well without the stripping effect of the acetone .
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I'll be surpised if they stay on for more than a few deflation - rollups
The company are specialists in this area, not some popup ebay shop. They have been involved with globally visible projects including as OEM to some boat manufacturers (including Avon) and have been doing it for years. Its not a standard material and if it was not going to last, I am sure they would have found out many many years ago.
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The other cleaner i used was PVC window cleaner , its cheap and available from diy shops , smells very strong but cleaned the tubes really well without the stripping effect of the acetone .
Did it smell like TFR by any chance?
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The company are specialists in this area, not some popup ebay shop. They have been involved with globally visible projects including as OEM to some boat manufacturers (including Avon) and have been doing it for years. Its not a standard material and if it was not going to last, I am sure they would have found out many many years ago.
The Avon badges and such are actually made of hypalon and glued on with 2 part glue. Anything like a "sticker" with a peel off backing just won't hold up. The 1 part PVC glues are ok, the 1 part hypalon glues aren't worth the bother when the vastly superior 2 part hypalon glues are available.

I'm sure the manufacturer has made a load of promises about their products durability. Unless its actually being guled on, consider me in the skeptical camp.
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Did it smell like TFR by any chance?
No nothing like TFR. I wouild describe tfr as bleach type cleaner , the pvc window cleaner is a solvent cleaner with a High spirit solvent type smell . Ill,get you some it only about 3 a litre from our beloved trago .
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Nah dont' worry, I'll stick with the gallon of TFR Seems to last forever.
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If I wanted something clean with no grease, I would use Acetone on the tubes. For instance if I was getting ready to glue or perform a repair. That would include attempting to stick letting that probably won't stick long term. MEK is the chemical used right before applying glue as it softens the PVC material in preparation for gluing. If you want something to stay put on a PVC boat...glue it on.
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IAN H , could you tell me this company that's doing the letters for you, as I need some done please
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The company is Graphic Innovation and their website is Graphic Innovation about us

Make sure that you speak to him with your exact requirement and satisfy yourself that its going to do as you want. There were a number of options available for them to create my graphic and after speaking with the chap and discussing number of colours, size and how long boat will spend in the bag, I trust that they will perform as I expect. Either way, you need to mention inflatable use when ordering so flexi material can be used.

When affixing to inflatable, you must do above certain temperature (16c?) and leave boat inflated 7 days for adhesive to cure. I was going to do mine this morning until temperature suddenly dropped.

I've used stick on sail numbers for years and never had a problem even when folded/creased right through the lettering.

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mek or acetone will soften the PVC, ok in small quick amounts. WILL degrease it real good.....
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