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Old 28 June 2009, 05:12   #21
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What is wrong with a wooden floor - not slats but removable boards - lighter than aluminium and stiffer than an air floor.
Only the fact that Honwave do not offer a wooden floor.

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I see that Mercury do a 4/5/6hp engine (choice of hp) and it's 25kg, lighter than the Honda and a bit more power. It's got a seperate fuel tank and a reverse gear (?)
Reverse gear is good, saves a bit of faffing about turning the engine around when you want reverse. The general opinion on here seemed to be that the small Mercury outboards are rebadged Tohatsus - Tohatsu might be cheaper?

http://www.tohatsu.co.jp/en/boat/products/mfs6.html

The same outboard is (I think) also badged as a Mariner:

http://www.marineroutboards.co.uk/de...p?product_id=9

I suspect you won't notice a huge difference (weight or performance) between a 5HP Honda and a 6HP Mercury. Some dealers offer Honwave + Honda outboard packages which again may save you some money.

Definitely worth shopping around - I bought my Suzuki DF9.9 new from Pacer Marine and saved over 400 (they are a real chandlery as well as an Ebay shop):

http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/PACERM...34Q2ec0Q2em322

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So it comes down to the air floor or the aluminium floor. The air floor had a more pointy front to the boat, was available as a 2.4 or a 2.7m, and had a keel shape that looked like a proper boat (sorry that's my best effort at a description of it)
The aluminium floor, well he didn't have one but it's listed as 2.5m and having an "air keel" and the less pointy front like the slatted floor one.
The air keel on the aluminium floor boat should give a similar hull shape to the air floor boat.

The 'pointy front' of the air floor may improve comfort / performance slightly, but I would suspect not by much. The 'less pointy front' will give you a little more space for a given boat length but again not much. From the photos online there does not appear to be a huge difference between the two bow shapes.

The aluminium floor will be more work to fit and remove as well as heavier. It will be stiffer in use than the air floor (ie better), but on such a small boat I don't know that it will matter that much. There are plenty of people on here who are very happy with their air floor SIBs. Provided you invest in a decent inflator and pressure gauge to ensure the floor is pumped up correctly it should be fine.

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The problem with the Honwaves is that you can't use normal transom wheels which are essential.
Codders is right on both counts - you will have to pay a bit more for wheels that will fit the Honwave, but they are absolutely essential.

http://www.seamarknunn.com/acatalog/...ZV5-T00HE.html

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Old 28 June 2009, 08:19   #22
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Those honwave launching wheels look pretty dodgy!
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Old 28 June 2009, 18:04   #23
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Those honwave launching wheels look pretty dodgy!
I agree very bad engineering - I think a move away from a Honwave would be a good idea...........
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Old 29 June 2009, 03:54   #24
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You may be right.
I've been looking and there's a "Zodiac" 2.6m boat (model 260S) with a solid floor and as a bonus it's lighter than the Honda. Looks like the floor may be plastic. Zodiac seem to be well regarded on this forum, I've never heard of them, but I wouldn't have unless I was into boats I guess.
Anyway, I've emailed a couple of suppliers and am waiting for a call back, I'll order that with something like the Mariner 6hp engine (after checking to see if the launching wheels will fit!)

On the Honda boat the floor does not look like it extends to the front of the boat, it seems to stop just after the bench seat.
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Zodiac seem to be well regarded on this forum, I've never heard of them, but I wouldn't have unless I was into boats I guess.
They are, far and away, the most well known manufacurer of fully inflatable boats in the world. Zodiac offers a very wide array of inflatable boats, ranging from relatively inexpensive light duty (PVC) SIBs & RIBs to some very heavy duty military/commercial SIBs & RIBs. In fact it is pretty common for people who are not familiar with inflatable boats to simply refer to them generically as 'zodiacs' - regardless of who actually manufactured the boat.
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Well that's good to hear. I've ordered the Zodiac 260S, which has a wooden floor, and the Mariner 6hp engine. Plus the genuine Zodiac pneumatic launching wheels.
So I should be all set to go next weekend.

The dealer offered 2 types of wheels, the "small grey plastic type that attach permanently" and the "arms & pneumatic tyres type". Taking the advice above I went for the pneumatic ones. Do these "fit permanently" too?

Thanks again for all the advice so far.
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Well that's good to hear. I've ordered the Zodiac 260S, which has a wooden floor, and the Mariner 6hp engine. Plus the genuine Zodiac pneumatic launching wheels.
So I should be all set to go next weekend.

The dealer offered 2 types of wheels, the "small grey plastic type that attach permanently" and the "arms & pneumatic tyres type". Taking the advice above I went for the pneumatic ones. Do these "fit permanently" too?

Thanks again for all the advice so far.
Most of the type transom wheels ,pneumatic one s you are after will have a permanant bracket fitted to the transom ,and the wheels and legs can be taken off and packed a way,i fold mine up and i have made a bar with rod holders to go,don t forget to use stainless bolts and a decent waterproof sealant to seal the bolt holes drilled in the transom
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The dealer has rung me just now offering the slightly larger boat for an extra 80. This would be the 2.85m rather than the 2.6m. Should I go for it? Is it going to be any more difficult to handle with an extra 25cm?
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The dealer has rung me just now offering the slightly larger boat for an extra 80. This would be the 2.85m rather than the 2.6m. Should I go for it? Is it going to be any more difficult to handle with an extra 25cm?

The longer the better.
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OK that's done then. It did say with the 260S that the maximum "recommended" hp engine was 4, and maximum "permissable" was 6.
With the bigger boat it's 8hp so my 6hp engine won't be on the outer limit for the boat.
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