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Old 19 May 2014, 12:59   #21
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Having a boat and not fishing? For me that's blasphemy...
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Having a boat and filling it with stinky fish guts and blood, thats blasphemy
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Old 19 May 2014, 13:09   #22
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Having a boat and filling it with stinky fish guts and blood, thats blasphemy
Ahah good point!
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Old 19 May 2014, 13:11   #23
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Yep, Landlockedpirate is quite right, liked the neat comparisson between a boat versus a water toy. For the record, the difference is that a traditional sib has a thicker gauge fabric which gives more boat rigidity seams are welded or glued, just to mention 2 difference which a cheaper toy ones.

Their water performance is awfull when engine pushes along. Doesn't have a rear transom to support engine as in the 310 model. You can put tons of add on gadgets, but will always remain as a eye catching TOY.

The 310 will be about right if rowing or motoring with a 6 HP. The only issue I'm not convinced is all about price and its fabric gauge. Usually you get what you pay for.

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Old 19 May 2014, 15:40   #24
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The 310 will be about right if rowing or motoring with a 6 HP. The only issue I'm not convinced is all about price and its fabric gauge. Usually you get what you pay for.
Can't argue with that. But as long as it lasts some years I'll be happy with it.
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Old 19 May 2014, 18:35   #25
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Personally i would be buying something older rather than new and possibly rubbish. Older wood floor avon boats with hypalon fabric sell for very cheap, and are easy to repair if you get a puncture. A half decent one should have plenty of life left in it.

Something like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121335077368 is a lot better than a glorified pool toy, pretty much on budget and was the first hit on the eBay search.
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Old 19 May 2014, 19:49   #26
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Personally i would be buying something older rather than new and possibly rubbish. Older wood floor avon boats with hypalon fabric sell for very cheap, and are easy to repair if you get a puncture. A half decent one should have plenty of life left in it.

Something like this AVON ROVER 280 R2-80 INFLATABLE DINGHY | eBay is a lot better than a glorified pool toy, pretty much on budget and was the first hit on the eBay search.
I'm based in Portugal so I probably can't buy a used boat via ebay (since most sellers won't ship them). I can take a look here but the best thing I found so far was the Zodiac I posted earlier.
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Old 20 May 2014, 00:57   #27
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Wow, this one got me thinking:

barco suzumar 3.20 metros com atrelado - à venda Barcos, Setúbal - CustoJusto.pt

Boat + tow for that price. Negotiable...
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Old 20 May 2014, 06:04   #28
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Suzumar are really good boats, and at 3.2m its a great size for a sib. Boat is not quite as good quality as the Zodiac but streets ahead of all the others you have mentioned.

These boats have welded seams so should hold air for years, however the rest of the boat is held together with standard PVC glue. Glue on all makes of PVC boats has a life span of about 10 years (this is not an exact figure, but a good approximation), at this point the glue degrades so much it starts to fail. Things start to come loose and eventually the floor drops out or the transom falls off. All of these things can be repaired pretty easily using 2 part glue, but it takes time and patience.

The other enemy of inflatables is sun (not a big problem here in the UK ), if left in direct sunlight for extended periods the material goes brown and starts to degrade and even delaminate. It also seems to speed up the glue failing.

Check out the boat carefully, look for signs the glue is failing on the fittings (D rings, safety line, oar locks etc), check for signs of sun damage and then negoitiate accordingly. Only buy and older boat like this if you are quite handy with repairs, or can pay someone else to do it.
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Old 20 May 2014, 08:56   #29
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Is that epoxy glue? If it is I can easily repair that kind of stuff. I am quite handy with this stuff as I repair all my stuff myself (my bikes and my motorcycle).

That said I'll take a good look, but by the pictures this boat doesn't seem to have much decay from sun.

BTW, do you know this specific model? Is it a RIB or a SIB? Can I desinflate it and store it away?
Do you recon I could stick in no top of my Megane 5 door hatchback instead of using the tow?

I aslo found this one:
Barco Quiksilver + Motor Honda 2 HP - à venda Barcos, Lisboa - CustoJusto.pt
Price is interesting for the whole boat but is that a 240?
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Specific 2 part glue for PVC inflatables, buy from a chandlery.

Boat is a late 90's Suzumar 320 sib, should have a part wood and part aluminium floor with an inflatable keel. The whole lot can be deflated and packed into a couple of bags which should just fit in the boot of a megan. It will fit on the roof but it will look huge and be difficult to fasten on if you are travelling any distance.

2nd boat is a 2.4m Quicklsilver with a slat floor (the least expensive but also the least usable floor option), engine is a 2hp, air cooled 4 stroke. TBH its not a great engine, noisy and can be difficult to start. Quicksilver is a good boat similar quality to the Suzumar and it looks a bit newer. Having said all that its a decent starter package that will all fit easily in the boot, if you only want to use it with 2 people on board. I dont know what the prices are near you, but that kit would sell for about £300 on ebay in the UK.
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