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Old 19 May 2014, 09:45   #11
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Hello everyone!

I've always been a boat enthusiast but I've never had the money to even think about getting one. But somedays ago I found out that Viamare boats are actually really cheap and I could easily afford one. The thing is, are they any good? I can't seem to find any real feed-back on the internet... I'm not looking for anything too fancy, just something that floats me around all afternoon with a mate, some beer and a couple of fishing sticks.

Right now I am looking at the Viamare 250T because that is the one I can afford, but if the price is right, I would probably buy a bigger one.

Other suggestions are always welcome but just keep in mind that my budget is really tight.

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Old 19 May 2014, 10:23   #12
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Excellent make with one of the best airfloors you can get. It will even take 4 people, if they are all built like Victoria Beckham and the best of friends

We had a 240 as a tender for a few years, we could just get 2 adults and 2 children in it with little room to spare, tubes are a decent size so you keep pretty dry and it would plane with a 4hp outboard.

Its not really big enough for the kind of boating you want to do. Look for a 280 minimum and really a 3 -3.4 for much better performance and handling.

Just another point about the Viamare you mentioned in your 1st post, it has really small tubes, lots of splashing and wet bums
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You can put 6 mates on a 250 if the ship is sinking, pass that one. 4 will be cramped, won't be able to take fishing rods, most important, forget all about the beers. I've had 280-305 sibs, good as entry level but too small as your boating likeness and skills begins to grow quite fast. Will end knowing that size and HP are not enough.

Look for a minimum 320-330-340 sib, besides being more sea responsivenes will take a larger 15 HP engine. If going for a smaller engine than max transom rated, will achieve a better speed than with same HP engine runing on a smaller size sib. Drag issues.

Would advice to be patient on your first purchase, you don't want to invest on a sib too small that doesn't work well, selll it losing money and getting more cash to buy a larger one, the larger size you should have bought in first place. Invest wise...

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You can put 6 mates on a 250 if the ship is sinking, pass that one. 4 will be cramped, won't be able to take fishing rods, most important, forget all about the beers. I've had 280-305 sibs, good as entry level but too small as your boating likeness and skills begins to grow quite fast. Will end knowing that size and HP are not enough.

Look for a minimum 320-330-340 sib, besides being more sea responsivenes will take a larger 15 HP engine. If going for a smaller engine than max transom rated, will achieve a better speed than with same HP engine runing on a smaller size sib. Drag issues.

Would advice to be patient on your first purchase, you don't want to invest on a sib too small that doesn't work well, selll it losing money and getting more cash to buy a larger one, the larger size you should have bought in first place. Invest wise...

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Right now I can't think about bigger engines as I don't have a license. Therefore if I end up getting an engine it will have to be under 6 hp. Above that I'll need license and insurance, things I cannot afford and won't be able to for the next years because I'm a college student with no money income.

With that being said, I'll have to keep in mind the limitations of a smaller boat and be able to live with them. If I end up getting a 250 I'll use it only to fish close to the coastline with another mate or row around the beach with my gf. I think that won't keep me from having fun since I have had tons of fun with the inflatable "toy" boat I have been using for this purpose.

At this point I think I would only buy a 250 if I find a really good deal where I don't lose money when I sell it later, but I am leaning towards a >300 if I just find the right deal.


What is your opinion on the Viamare Z-Ray III 400?

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Completely different if you want to row, rather than motor the boat.

Inflatables dont row particularly well, fragile oar locks, non feathering oars and crappy paddles dont help, but they will feel better than a typical beach toy type boat.

If you are not going to power it, look for a round tail dinghy, they are cheaper, lighter and will take a small engine in the future. Make sure you get one with a proper floor, preferebly air, but slats will do.


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But be very careful, dont be tempted to buy the Sea Hawk type boats available on ebay, they are really only beach toys, no proper floor and tiny tubes. Like this

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Much better than the 250, it's an air deck, if possible ask what's heavy duty pvc gauge fabric for them ? If it's 0.9 mm much better. Would 699 Euro be around 1,000 dollars ?

Regarding price, bear in mind that those are the most simple sibs you can buy, has a stretched bow, life rope is basic, which is cheaper to produce. Not saying that won't perform as expected as long all air chambers are well top inflated, specially the air deck and keel.

Personally would go for that roomier 310 and not the 250, too small and tight. Ask about manufacture warranty at your location. If with non, will need to fix whatever goes wrong at any inflatable repair shop that knows his buissiness well. On inflatables all is glueable or repairable, except fabric when caput.

Round tail dinghies don't acept engines larger that 3.5 HP at the most, won't be able to use a 6 Hp on those. A air deck is much better than a slat floor, better water performance.

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Completely different if you want to row, rather than motor the boat.

Inflatables dont row particularly well, fragile oar locks, non feathering oars and crappy paddles dont help, but they will feel better than a typical beach toy type boat.

If you are not going to power it, look for a round tail dinghy, they are cheaper, lighter and will take a small engine in the future. Make sure you get one with a proper floor, preferebly air, but slats will do.


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But be very careful, dont be tempted to buy the Sea Hawk type boats available on ebay, they are really only beach toys, no proper floor and tiny tubes. Like this

Sea Hawk Sport 400 inflatable dinghy | eBay
I thought about those dinghys. Some are actually quite cool. Are they ok for trolling?

Besides the floor and the tube diameter, what's the difference between those 2 models?
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Much better than the 250, it's an air deck, if possible ask what's heavy duty pvc gauge fabric for them ? If it's 0.9 mm much better. Would 699 Euro be around 1,000 dollars ?

Regarding price, bear in mind that those are the most simple sibs you can buy, has a stretched bow, life rope is short, which is cheaper to produce. Not saying that won't perform as expected as long all air chambers are well top inflated, specially the air deck and keel.

Personally would go for that roomier 310 and not the 250, too small and tight. Ask about manufacture warranty at your location. If with non, will need to fix whatever goes wrong at any inflatable repair shop that knows his buissiness well. On inflatables all is glueable or repairable, except fabric when caput.

Round tail dinghies don't acept engines larger that 3.5 HP at the most, won't be able to use a 6 Hp on those. A air deck is much better than a slat floor, better water performance.

Happy Boating
Last auction I followed on that model the boat was sold for 460 shipped (about 630 USD). Pretty neat, I must say.

What's the difference between the deck of the 250 and the 310? I have been reading that air decks are good, but I really don't know the difference.
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I thought about those dinghys. Some are actually quite cool. Are they ok for trolling?

Besides the floor and the tube diameter, what's the difference between those 2 models?
Sorry, I dont fish.

The material is different, ones a boat the other is a toy.
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Sorry, I dont fish.

The material is different, ones a boat the other is a toy.
Having a boat and not fishing? For me that's blasphemy...

I'll consider your suggestion and take a look at those round dinghies.

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