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Old 25 September 2014, 13:53   #11
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Hi all and wecome Kantona.

Having a friend who had a 2.7 with a 4hp 3 of us on it and being an air floor there was minimal comfort and room for kit etc.Also trying to stand up and stretch was not the nicest experience to say the least.I got the bug and now have a Honwave 3.5 with aly floor the benifits of being able to stand up and move about is the way to go,more so when needing to have a pee, it becomes a nightmare one wobble at the wrong time and your in the water.If I were you a minimum of a 3.1 with aluminium or wood floor would be a much wiser choice.Engine wise a10hp is minimum just because if weather changes you have that bit extra to get you back a bit quicker.Others may have different views on this but better to have that bit more get up and go.

Also what's your budget it will give others more scope to help you to make your choice.
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Old 25 September 2014, 18:36   #12
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I have to agree with you Fenlander and that is one reason I bought my Honwave 3.8 air floor, a great sib, just too heavy to lug around off it's wheels. Just before I bought my current sib, the Excel SD330, I looked at warranty periods. The honwave was 2 years and I think Zodiac is the same, compare that to the Excel at 5 years on fabric and 5 years on construction. Now which offers the best value and having just been on ebay I see that the Trans-e is the same so perhaps some of these lesser known products do have something extra to offer and at 525 for a Trans-e 3.20, that is impressive.

I bought the Excel because of the features paying a few hundred quid more than the Trans-e but nevertheless I can't find any real faults with them. The review done on the North Wales Kayak Fishing site is the friend I spoke of earlier who loves his.

I would never have sold the Honwave if I had been able to move it around easier only wish I had bought the 3.2 in the first place because of the weight advantage.

Now here is an odd thing, the Honwave has a net weight of 48kgs and I swear I could hardly lift or move it in it's rolled up form. The Excel SD330 net weight is 48kg but I can lift it walk with it, okay not far but I have no problems carrying it out of the garage and into the car. One of them must be stating the wrong weight but who ?????

On Tuesday I took a friend fishing on a local river, we were both stood up in the boat and considering it is an air floor, it was both safe and pretty sturdy with us stood on it, not a patch on your ali floor though Dave.

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Old 25 September 2014, 19:02   #13
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I have to agree with you Fenlander and that is one reason I bought my Honwave 3.8 air floor, a great sib, just too heavy to lug around off it's wheels. Just before I bought my current sib, the Excel SD330, I looked at warranty periods. The honwave was 2 years and I think Zodiac is the same, compare that to the Excel at 5 years on fabric and 5 years on construction. Now which offers the best value and having just been on ebay I see that the Trans-e is the same so perhaps some of these lesser known products do have something extra to offer and at 525 for a Trans-e 3.20, that is impressive.

I bought the Excel because of the features paying a few hundred quid more than the Trans-e but nevertheless I can't find any real faults with them. The review done on the North Wales Kayak Fishing site is the friend I spoke of earlier who loves his.

I would never have sold the Honwave if I had been able to move it around easier only wish I had bought the 3.2 in the first place because of the weight advantage.

Now here is an odd thing, the Honwave has a net weight of 48kgs and I swear I could hardly lift or move it in it's rolled up form. The Excel SD330 net weight is 48kg but I can lift it walk with it, okay not far but I have no problems carrying it out of the garage and into the car. One of them must be stating the wrong weight but who ?????

On Tuesday I took a friend fishing on a local river, we were both stood up in the boat and considering it is an air floor, it was both safe and pretty sturdy with us stood on it, not a patch on your ali floor though Dave.

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Hi phill

Yes it's almost an extra metre on the 2.7 sib I was refuring to with 3 onboard and I am close to 20 stone 6.3 so I'm at a disadvantage straight away plus a few waves.Its all down to your personal needs.I noticed you were on a river thats different again.
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Old 26 September 2014, 04:09   #14
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You are right Dave, the river is somewhat different to the sea and I'm not so sure I will be very quick to stand up when I go sea fishing, I feel the need to learn how to pee kneeling with a good aim.

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You are right Dave, the river is somewhat different to the sea and I'm not so sure I will be very quick to stand up when I go sea fishing, I feel the need to learn how to pee kneeling with a good aim.

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I normally find one knee on the transom and a hand on the engine works fine.
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I normally find one knee on the transom and a hand on the engine works fine.
I am just picturing you now Dave while the tears are rolling down my face

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Yep that's fine with the nice broad rounded transom top capping of a Honwave. The sharp timber of a Zodiac is likely to take your kneecap off!
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I am just picturing you now Dave while the tears are rolling down my face

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It's not the most dignified setup but needs must and it beats rinsing the tubes off
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Is it possible to be to old to kayak?
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Is it possible to be to old to kayak?
I do hope not or I will find some rather high spec kayaks in my garage of no further use.

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