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Old 23 January 2008, 07:26   #21
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They are really nice boats but I remember reading about an accident with one being "tested" by Dickies I think. They tried a tight turn on full lock from a standing start and flipped it. Not as forgiving as a RIB.

How much did it cost to hire as a matter of interest???
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Old 23 January 2008, 12:23   #22
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I think Mr Codprawn has struk the nail quite squarely on the head. I am one of those boaters with a foot in each camp, a rib for the craic and a bow rider for the family. I've been looking for a couple of years for the ultimate SUV and you need a lot on money.
The best compromise I found in thr rib camp was a scorcerer, really amazing hull but can do the bowrider thing preytty well. Missus was put off by the 55knt top speed and that with a 150 mariner.
You have to work out what you want to do, what weather you're going out in and how wet you want to get. There are a couple of yank bowriders with good hulls, Chris Craft and Cobalt, I've seen some 2nd hand Chris Craft's with a 5.7 V8 going for under 20k, they really fly and can handle some weather, but not like a rib. But if you want to fish, forget it, you'll make too much mess and all that carpet will drive you nuts. Good luck. Maybe you should go to boats and outboards and simply filter with your top price and see what comes up.
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Old 23 January 2008, 12:27   #23
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I think my new dream all rounder boat is the Botnia Targa - maybe the 31' but even the 27' moored in my local harbour looks awesome. Loads of deck space - good accomodation and wheelhouse - start at about 100,000 though!!! And they look a little top heavy - not as stable as a RIB I shouldn't think.

http://www.targa.fi/index2.php
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Old 23 January 2008, 13:52   #24
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How did I get here?

Thanks Into The Blue - I started off just wanting a little SIB to run around Salcombe estuary and maybe get me along the coast a bit, primarily in the summer.

Now we're talking Chris Crafts and Botnias!!

Haven't seen a Botnia, but stood and drooled at a Chris Craft 'Launch' at Excel...until I heard the price! Still, one day, maybe...

General consensus seems to be swinging towards these open day boats - Seamarks, Boston Whalers etc. - and hey - the Seamark has a nice little table that the Lordys can all sit around for lunch as we bob about at anchor on a beautiful sunny day off a deserted white sand beach off the south Devon coast. Dreamer, me? Never!

As you say, a RIB/SIB is great for the craic, so if I go second-hand on the SUB who knows - maybe I can get the best of both worlds, even as a newbie. (I've just seen a nice little Zodiac Futura 4.7m with a 30hp 2 stroke for 2850 - luvverly!!)

Cheers!!
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Old 23 January 2008, 14:03   #25
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Hmm so that will be a SUB then...

I had a look at bow-riders and wasn't personally convinced in anything but a calm.

One that did catch my eye at the boatshow was the ZAR range. Bit of a hybrid between pure rib and bow-rider style but did seem to rather fit the sport utility bill. Claims a deep V and good weather handling but I've no direct experience.

I was going to seriously try out until I found something that fitted our circumstances better.
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Old 23 January 2008, 14:20   #26
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Thanks Into The Blue - I started off just wanting a little SIB to run around Salcombe estuary and maybe get me along the coast a bit, primarily in the summer.

Now we're talking Chris Crafts and Botnias!!

Haven't seen a Botnia, but stood and drooled at a Chris Craft 'Launch' at Excel...until I heard the price! Still, one day, maybe...

General consensus seems to be swinging towards these open day boats - Seamarks, Boston Whalers etc. - and hey - the Seamark has a nice little table that the Lordys can all sit around for lunch as we bob about at anchor on a beautiful sunny day off a deserted white sand beach off the south Devon coast. Dreamer, me? Never!

As you say, a RIB/SIB is great for the craic, so if I go second-hand on the SUB who knows - maybe I can get the best of both worlds, even as a newbie. (I've just seen a nice little Zodiac Futura 4.7m with a 30hp 2 stroke for 2850 - luvverly!!)

Cheers!!
Whatever you get I am sure you will have fun. My little quicksilver 3.1 with a suzuki 15hp is a great laugh and I have even crossed the Bristol Channel in it - a trip of about 25 miles each way!!!
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Old 23 January 2008, 14:35   #27
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Hmm so that will be a SUB then...
I simply plagiarise the esteemed Mr Ian Parkes!!
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Old 23 January 2008, 14:39   #28
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Whatever you get I am sure you will have fun. My little quicksilver 3.1 with a suzuki 15hp is a great laugh and I have even crossed the Bristol Channel in it - a trip of about 25 miles each way!!!
BLIMEY Codprawn - I would never have thought you could get a SIB that far. I assume this is unusual, or it was one of those 'flat as glass' days?

Anyway - now you've really got me thinking - the Zodiac I've seen can probably get me further than I'd realized.

Thanks again!!
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Old 23 January 2008, 15:41   #29
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One that did catch my eye at the boatshow was the ZAR range. Bit of a hybrid between pure rib and bow-rider style but did seem to rather fit the sport utility bill. Claims a deep V and good weather handling but I've no direct experience.
My husband and I took delivery of our Zar 57 Welldeck last year. We were looking for a boat that would competently handle the Solent chop but also fitted the utility aspect. We keep the boat on the dry stack at Port Hamble and have enjoyed smooth runs down to Christchurch, Chichester and lunch stops at Newtown Creek and the Beaulieu river.

When we were looking we found a couple of the key advantages of the boat over conventional RIBs were the flexible seating/sunbathing arrangements and the removable dining table, which is a must for enjoying lunch with friends!

We found the sea-keeping was far superior to other boats that we tested, the ride being particularly soft and dry. One of our plans for the forthcoming season is to drive down to the West Country, rent a cottage and enjoy exploring one or two rivers down there. We are considering purchasing the optional camping tent so that we can spend the odd night on board for a new adventure!

If a sports utility boat is what you're looking for, I recommend looking further at this range.
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Old 23 January 2008, 15:55   #30
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BLIMEY Codprawn - I would never have thought you could get a SIB that far. I assume this is unusual, or it was one of those 'flat as glass' days?

Anyway - now you've really got me thinking - the Zodiac I've seen can probably get me further than I'd realized.

Thanks again!!
Little sibs will get you miles , we often did 50 miles in a day , its just when the return leg gets choppy wind over tide etc its a real nightmare for comfort reasons only ,I never felt unsafe in the sib . It like riding pilion on a dirt bike .
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