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Old 05 January 2009, 17:47   #1
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Alternative to a SIB seat

Hi guys just had a mad idea which depending on how much beer you have had, you may agree with or think is codswallop

The idea is to replace the "plank" seat on my quicksilver 340 with a coleman 70 litre coolbox have a look here - http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/articles/view.asp?id=237 and scroll down to Coleman 70 QT Sport Marine Cool Box I am guessing that the box is approx 3 inches wider than the internal width between the tubes if all the manufacturers sizes are correct. The box would be put in the boat whilst partially inflated attached to the existing webbing seat support by a velcro strap and then fully inflate the tubes OK big question will this work? or is there something i have forgotten oh by the way the box does hold 98 tinnies so any short comings could quickly be forgotten.

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Old 05 January 2009, 23:51   #2
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Hi guys just had a mad idea which depending on how much beer you have had, you may agree with or think is codswallop
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The link was unavailable, have my vote on 98 tinnies for great time cruising. Alleluya!!

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I am guessing that the box is approx 3 inches wider than the internal width between the tubes if all the manufacturers sizes are correct. The box would be put in the boat whilst partially inflated attached to the existing webbing seat support by a velcro strap and then fully inflate the tubes
I'd be very worried about the tubes abrading where they contact the ice chest.

If I were you, I'd drop a size for the chest, and strap the thing fore and aft to prevent movement.

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Old 06 January 2009, 17:11   #4
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I have a plastic rubbermaid storage trunk as my seat. Similiar to a cooler. Have it secured with webbing from handles to D rings on the tubes. Works great as a seat and great for storing lines, pump, etc.
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I'd be very worried about the tubes abrading where they contact the ice chest.

If I were you, I'd drop a size for the chest, and strap the thing fore and aft to prevent movement.

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Yes this was a concern,I have no idea if it will move at all maybe I could use a piece of foam backed carpet as a buffer foam against the tubes and any movement should then be coolbox against carpet threads.

I don't really want to go smaller as next size down only takes 70 tinnies and there would be a gap of 1.5 inches between the tubes each side so I would lose a fair bit of stability also I have an airdeck and although this has to d rings glued to it I wouldn't like to trust them to hold the "seat" securely
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I agree with jyasaki that direct contact between the cooler and the tubes would be a really bad thing. A 1.5" gap on each side sounds about right. Is a rigid floorboard/stringer system available for your boat? This would be by far the best way to go if you do not want to sit on a tube while piloting the boat. With solid floor boards you could bolt rubber locaters (for the corners of the cooler) to the floor boards. The small rubber bow stops for trailers have a 90 degree angle at the 'V'. With those bolted in place and some anchor rings bolted to the floorboards, you could strap the cooler down very solidly with no contact between the cooler and the tubes. Here is what I did to secure my removable bow locker for my SIB;

http://rib.net/forum/showpost.php?p=254162&postcount=8
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I agree with jyasaki that direct contact between the cooler and the tubes would be a really bad thing. A 1.5" gap on each side sounds about right. Is a rigid floorboard/stringer system available for your boat? This would be by far the best way to go if you do not want to sit on a tube while piloting the boat. With solid floor boards you could bolt rubber locaters (for the corners of the cooler) to the floor boards. The small rubber bow stops for trailers have a 90 degree angle at the 'V'. With those bolted in place and some anchor rings bolted to the floorboards, you could strap the cooler down very solidly with no contact between the cooler and the tubes. Here is what I did to secure my removable bow locker for my SIB;

http://rib.net/forum/showpost.php?p=254162&postcount=8
Thats the dogs,,,,,,,,,everything you need it all in the box tidy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i am currently working on a bow bag design ,it came with the boat,,,,,,,,,,,with a shelf fitted to the widest length,,,ao fish finder and gps unit fit on it,,,,,,,,,,,and then having something like what you have anchor storage wise,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but my bow strorage is a bag? and not a box,,,,,,,,,,,so i could fit a bucket in it to take the excess rope,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but i was thinking of making a hole in the bag at the bow point,to let the rope out but ,,,,not sure how to do it?if i make a hole in the bag ,,,,,,,,,,how do i stop it from fraying and getting bigger,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,eyelets perhaps sawn on?,,,,,,,,,,,,,i know so many questions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and will i be able to lean over this ,to retrieve the anchor that is attached to the bow eye,,,,,,,,,,,,,,any ideas please,,,,,,,,,,,,,, out of intrest i have just tried to find a manafactuer of these tongue boxs in england on the net,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,found nowt,,,,and they look pricey eleswere with postage aswell?
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Thats the dogs,,,,,,,,,everything you need it all in the box tidy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i am currently working on a bow bag design ,it came with the boat,,,,,,,,,,,with a shelf fitted to the widest length,,,ao fish finder and gps unit fit on it,,,,,,,,,,,and then having something like what you have anchor storage wise,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but my bow strorage is a bag? and not a box,,,,,,,,,,,so i could fit a bucket in it to take the excess rope,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but i was thinking of making a hole in the bag at the bow point,to let the rope out but ,,,,not sure how to do it?if i make a hole in the bag ,,,,,,,,,,how do i stop it from fraying and getting bigger,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,eyelets perhaps sawn on?,,,,,,,,,,,,,i know so many questions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and will i be able to lean over this ,to retrieve the anchor that is attached to the bow eye,,,,,,,,,,,,,,any ideas please,,,,,,,,,,,,,, out of intrest i have just tried to find a manafactuer of these tongue boxs in england on the net,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,found nowt,,,,and they look pricey eleswere with postage aswell?
Are you good at sewing or know someone who is? I'm assuming the bag is made of a cordura nylon. Here are a couple of ideas that come to mind, based on how I think your bow bag is currently set up. I'm guessing you have access zipper around the perimeter of the bag either on top or around the side just below the top. When you open the bag fully the top folds over top of the front of the bow.

Why not get some cordura nylon and sew a retaining wall to the front of and bottom of the inside of the bag that will securely keep a bucket (for your anchor and line) in postion? (see the first image). Then find a curved semicircular zipper of the same diameter as your bucket and sew it into the lid of the bag (see 2nd image). This would allow you to get at your anchor & line without having to open the whole bag up.

Along the inside walls of the bag you could sew in some 1" nylon webbing in a PALS grid (Pouch Attachment Ladder System). This would you allow you organize the items you wish to carry in various pouches that could be quick connected/disconnected to the side walls of the bag. You could also add additional partitioning walls (that have a PALS grid on them) within the bag with the cordura. The first thing is to determine what all you wish to stow in the bag and how it can be fit most efficiently. Items you need most frequently or may need most urgently need to be situated to be the most easily accessible.

Here are some links that illustrate the concept and may give you some ideas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PALS_webbing

http://www.kifaru.net/MGD_L.htm

http://www.kifaru.net/MG_extpkts.htm

http://www.kifaru.net/MGpiggy.htm
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are you good at sewing or know someone who is? I'm assuming the bag is made of a cordura nylon. Here are a couple of ideas that come to mind, based on how i think your bow bag is currently set up. I'm guessing you have access zipper around the perimeter of the bag either on top or around the side just below the top. When you open the bag fully the top folds over top of the front of the bow.

Why not get some cordura nylon and sew a retaining wall to the front of and bottom of the inside of the bag that will securely keep a bucket (for your anchor and line) in postion? (see the first image). Then find a curved semicircular zipper of the same diameter as your bucket and sew it into the lid of the bag (see 2nd image). This would allow you to get at your anchor & line without having to open the whole bag up.

Along the inside walls of the bag you could sew in some 1" nylon webbing in a pals grid (pouch attachment ladder system). This would you allow you organize the items you wish to carry in various pouches that could be quick connected/disconnected to the side walls of the bag. You could also add additional partitioning walls (that have a pals grid on them) within the bag with the cordura. The first thing is to determine what all you wish to stow in the bag and how it can be fit most efficiently. Items you need most frequently or may need most urgently need to be situated to be the most easily accessible.

Here are some links that illustrate the concept and may give you some ideas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pals_webbing

http://www.kifaru.net/mgd_l.htm

http://www.kifaru.net/mg_extpkts.htm

http://www.kifaru.net/mgpiggy.htm
fantastic ,thankyou very much ,right its talk the mrs round ,a bottle of red wine ,and the sewing needle comes out,,,,,,,,,,,,,again many thanks
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Old 13 January 2009, 13:43   #10
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Thanks for the ideas, I have gone for the smaller one so it doesn't touch the tubes and to compensate for the lack of tinnie storage i have got a keep net so i can get a few cans in that and keep it cool
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