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Old 06 July 2016, 07:16   #21
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here you go ideal for sibing you just need a pair of boots to go over the socks and thats a quick fix
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Old 06 July 2016, 07:31   #22
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>>>regularly surf in January in anything down to 4C

I think that is why we have differing opinions in the possibility of flipping a SIB... in 50+ yrs on the water from Canadian canoes to 50ft+ motor sailer types my boating has been the type where you hope never to find yourself in the water!
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Old 06 July 2016, 08:04   #23
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>>>regularly surf in January in anything down to 4C

I think that is why we have differing opinions in the possibility of flipping a SIB... in 50+ yrs on the water from Canadian canoes to 50ft+ motor sailer types my boating has been the type where you hope never to find yourself in the water!
the same as you David having started out in canoes as a lad then i started diving and boats were a big part of that so we always wore dry suits even then it can get cold with wind chill, some times i wear a musto suit & a survival suit but i read an article i think it was power boat and rib where a guy was lone skipper in a rib and hit a rogue wave in the Irish sea the next he new he was afloat and the wind took the boat away so swimming was not an option i forget now but he was in the water a long time his Savior was a dry suit there was other stuff too but thats the big killer the cold now i wear a dry suit all the time with front entry so i can take off on my own.
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Wetsuits are great for keeping you warm if they are dry, or when you are in the water. But a wet wetsuit out of the water will soon have your core temperature down. As for the Gul Gamas, I had one and sweated buckets in it. I now wear Kayakers paddle pants with sown in socks and a kayakers Cag. Not as waterproof as a Drysuit, if you go in, but a lot more comfortable.
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But in my experience a decent (200+) winter surf wetsuit with a fleece rashvest underneath is pretty good too.
The secret to using wetsuits above the water in winter is to keep them dry - I used to wear cheap raingear over mine before (and after) a dive. I'd imagine it reduces windchill and obviously adds a layer.
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>>>regularly surf in January in anything down to 4C

I think that is why we have differing opinions in the possibility of flipping a SIB... in 50+ yrs on the water from Canadian canoes to 50ft+ motor sailer types my boating has been the type where you hope never to find yourself in the water!
Hope is a lovely warm and comforting thing....although IMO not to be counted on at Sea
Better by far to have good reliable Safety gear and the knowledge to use it properly.
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>>>Hope is a lovely warm and comforting thing....although IMO not to be counted on at Sea... Better by far to have good reliable Safety gear and the knowledge to use it properly.

Well OK a bit more than hope.... right choice of boat/motor for operating area/conditions... planning re weather/tides... 50yrs+ experience... and very most important knowing when caution needs to replace excitement/bravery.

In truth to have self/Mrs/daughter/dog all bobbing in the water with the potential for our new outboard being scrap and all our possessions dangling on their restraint lines testing the waterproofness of our dry bags... if I thought that would ever happen I'd give up now.
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but i read an article i think it was power boat and rib where a guy was lone skipper in a rib and hit a rogue wave in the Irish sea the next he new he was afloat.
That was Andy. I met him a couple of days later. He had a very bad experience and survived due to his presence of mind, equipment and the emergency services. He would have survived in a 16mm wetsuit, albeit a little colder.
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That was Andy. I met him a couple of days later. He had a very bad experience and survived due to his presence of mind, equipment and the emergency services. He would have survived in a 16mm wetsuit, albeit a little colder.
16 mm wetsuit that would be like wearing a suit of Armour willk i had an 8 mm st albans neoprene suit years ago it use to take the skin off the back of your legs it was that stiff.ive spent 6 hours in an 8 mm dry suit holding a plum weight for the engineers on the sky bridge and i was freezing,dry suit for me surface suits are cheep enough plenty of layers front entry neoprene seals bob on .

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dry suit for me surface suits are cheep enough plenty of layers front entry neoprene seals bob on .

It took me years to convince my missus that she needed a dry suit, an unexpected dunking in the Humber changed her mind in minutes, she wouldn't be without it now. I thought I might have a fight on my hands when I suggested Geckos, she jumped at the chance.👍


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