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Old 05 December 2018, 05:04   #11
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the dux is a different boat altogether with a very good beam 7 foot 1 inch it will outperform any sib at 20 hp good fishing platform the beam will allow sitting on the floor in rough conditions good when you have kids on board, not sure about the material i guess its a PVC type cost wise all in approaching $4500.
on the other hand looking on one site the defender 380 in hypalon cost wise similar and hypalon will fair much better especially in sunny climes in terms of life although the new PVC materials haven't had time to show a comparison.
the defender in PVC is half the cost which would allow for more $ spent on the engine say going up to a 25 hp which would have more than enough power to do all you need it won't be in the top RPM range all the time & more economical IMO.
when i bought mine i looked at hypalon 2.3rds the cost again my thought was i could have two boats nearly for that price linked with a 5 year PVC material guarantee the boat will last at least 10 years so i put the money into the engine knowing that 25 hp will do all i need without flogging it to death on every outing.OMO
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Old 06 December 2018, 21:12   #12
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Thanks again Jeff
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Old 10 December 2018, 02:46   #13
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Hi Kurt I have the Suzuki 20hp like Jeff say I do travel very light with my camping gear that's how I get good fuel economy but do feel that I should have got the Suzuki 25 hp if funds allow you I would say take the bigger engine with the package
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Old 10 December 2018, 12:50   #14
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Thank you for the input Highland! You burst my bubble though of thinking the 20hp 4T were a magical compromise of relative light weight and almost the power of a 25hp ;-)

I’m back to thinking about Jeff’s recommendation to consider the Zodiac Futura Mk2C. Anyone have any first hand experience comparing them to conventional SIBs in terms of rough water capability and performance? In terms of quality I would hope they are quite good considering the price they command.

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I like the Dux and Surf Cat but think they have an open transom for a reason :-). Might not be the greatest for carrying dry people or fishing gear.
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I like the Dux and Surf Cat but think they have an open transom for a reason :-). Might not be the greatest for carrying dry people or fishing gear.


Surfcat has a choice of open or closed transom
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Old 10 December 2018, 14:57   #17
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Boiling it down the speed tube boat will be a better ride on the plane no different at displacement speed but will perform on the plane with a 20 as good as if not better than a SIB with a 25 if propped correct. the engines weight difference 44 kg or 62 kg isn't to be ignored both for performance and manoeuvrability on the beach etc.
As said the transom isn't an issue if you go that route, I know of a couple of guys with the futura and rave about them.
It's a sweet shop situation you're in so much choice.
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Gazzago on here has the 25hp with a 3.8 the speed tubes are good he could turn on a dime my honwave T40 is a good set up with a 20hp but when I took my mate with me plus all the camping gear I would have liked that wee bit more power just for back up
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After going round and round considering all different boats and no two salesmen (even from the same store) being in agreement on which would be "ideal" for my needs, I think for numerous reasons its prudent to stick with Achilles and get the an SGX. Instead of a 20 EFI, I am considering the Yamaha 25 EFI for more power as was suggested. I really don't want to add the weight, but am considering it.

So if I go with the 25hp, that leads to another question. If you start with the 25hp at 126 lbs, would it be prudent to add four more pounds and $30 and get the long shaft, then add another 20 lbs and $750 to get the SGX 132 instead of the SGX 122?

Manufacturer recommends 20hp on 122 and 30hp on 132. As anyone, I would prefer too much power over not enough. But, I think it would be absolutely crazy to consider lifting anything heavier than the 25hp to and from the boat and pulling it up and down the beach. Think I may be able to get away with Danard transom wheels with the SGX 122 and 20hp, probably be smarter to go with a Wheeleez trolley with the SGX 132 and 25hp, so that adds another $600...

Any thoughts?
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personally i would go SGX 132 with the long shaft although looking at the specs i wonder why the long shaft as the tube size is the same unless its a recessed transom on the SGX 122 to take standard shaft.the longer wider boat would be best especially with the trolley set up as below. i would be tempted to buy a cheap sack barrow to transport the engine around to minimise carrying too.
the yam is a good engine and better if you have a dealer near you for servicing.


https://beachwheelsaustralia.com/pro...h-49cm-wheels/

consider propping down for the wakeboard stuff to keep performance up for the bit of extra weight.
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