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Old 21 June 2011, 05:06   #31
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I have posted this before, but in short we did a demo for a sailing club that were thinking of adding SIBs to their safety boat fleet. I challenged the Boatswain to a race, he had to hitch up his tractor to a RIB, launch it and park the trailer. We managed to unpack, inflate, rig and launch a 4.3m SIB in the same time.

Once the boat and owner are suitably broken in it is a fairly slick operation and the single biggest advantage to SIBs, if you cannot tow or are already towing then they do a job no other boat can.
I have to agree.
My boat has an ally floor too , i can have out the van, erected and in the water in 15/20 minutes no problem .
i am recently new to boating too,, i didnt want to go and buy a boat ,then have to upgrade because i`d made a rash decision, so i went out and bought a 4metre sib honwave solid floor and a tohatsu 40 hp , thus maybe overdoing it ,, BUT i`ll never need to upgrade .. I would also recomend that you buy the maximum size/weight engine that the transom allows.
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Old 21 June 2011, 11:14   #32
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Cheers people, I think I'm pretty settled on the boat, now the outboard lol

I'm going to go with a 2 stroke 15hp, but was wondering on the make. I see Tohatsu are pretty cheap - are they any good or should I stick with a yammy or Merc?

Would anyone bother buying new? I only as because the
Tohatsu are pretty cheap anyway.

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Old 22 June 2011, 04:12   #33
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Tohatsu make good motors. Usually a new engine on a good second hand hull is a good compromise, though if you find an old tohatsu 18hp two stroke I'd snap it up if I were you - they weigh next to nothing and have plenty of power
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Old 22 June 2011, 05:06   #34
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Well of course you can't buy a new 2-stroke so if that's your choice it has to be used.

I'm very much in favour of used 2-strokes from around 2001 on. There are many that have been looked after and still look/run like new. So many folks don't get their boats out nearly as much as they'd planned and many 5-10yr old under 25hp outboards are just run in, flushed after every use and kept under wraps in dry garages.

Big thumbs up from me for Tohatsu as well.

I've just bought this Mariner 15 which will get new impellor, thermostat, gear oil and plugs bringing it to virtually new condition.
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Old 22 June 2011, 09:15   #35
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Thanks guys.

Which are generally the best makes: are they Mercury, Mariner, Yama & Tohats??
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Old 22 June 2011, 20:06   #36
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I think you will find they are mostly all manufactured by Tohatsu, then re branded as Mariner, Yamaha etc, with a premium. Strangely enough, the Tohatsu,s although cheaper to buy when new, seems to be the popular choice when buying secondhand.
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Old 28 June 2011, 10:22   #37
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I'll just add one vote for 4 stroke engines..... way quieter, no mixing, and don't smell.

Yup way heavier.... always trade offs. Love my Honda..... starts first try every time.

I agree with those who say get the biggest engine that the boat is rated for..... it will only be a matter of time before you wish you did.
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Old 28 June 2011, 11:02   #38
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I'll just add one vote for 4 stroke engines..... way quieter, no mixing, and don't smell.

Yup way heavier.... always trade offs. Love my Honda..... starts first try every time.

I agree with those who say get the biggest engine that the boat is rated for..... it will only be a matter of time before you wish you did.
Well I'll play the devil and defend "ye old 2 stroke"

Way lighter, store it how you like, cheaper services, will run on just about any old fuel (although not advised), far more responsive,

Downsides... Fuel - granted big savings on larger HP but not really an issue at that HP, mixing - buy a 2 mixing jug problem solved, smell - ain't the exhaust at the rear of the boat ????

Back to the upsides, stand the test of time. You see 2 strokes still going strong from the 80's whereas these new 4 strokes from China or wherever won't give you 15 years service.

4 stroke is the way forward without question but only because we have to!!

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Ok Peter...... I'll counter......

The storage issue..... never been a problem for me..... you can lay down a 4 stroke, just have to put it on one side only..... no big deal.

Honda never made 2 strokes...... maybe they knew 4 was better?

Lots of old Honda 4 strokes around that are going strong after 30 years!

True, other manufacturers are just now trying to build reliable 4 strokes because they have to!

Enjoy your choice!

Have fun boating

All meant in good humor.
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Old 29 June 2011, 03:32   #40
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Ok Peter...... I'll counter......

The storage issue..... never been a problem for me..... you can lay down a 4 stroke, just have to put it on one side only..... no big deal.

Honda never made 2 strokes...... maybe they knew 4 was better?

Lots of old Honda 4 strokes around that are going strong after 30 years!

True, other manufacturers are just now trying to build reliable 4 strokes because they have to!

Enjoy your choice!

Have fun boating

All meant in good humor.
Deuce!!

My serve, 

If 4 strokes been going strong 30 years how come the RNLI never used 4 stroke until very recently ?

Back to smell, a new e-tec will kick out less emissions then a 10 year old Honda,

Standing the test of time - show me a larger (50hp+) 4 stroke that's still running PRE 1994 ? I can show you 1000 2 strokes,

Match point, come on Tim

I don't have any 4 strokes for sale right now, I win

Did i mention i've several large 2 strokes for sale ? Ask me next week and I'm sure I'll be batting from the other side. 

All in jest,
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