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Old 29 September 2013, 12:20   #31
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ok.. I give up, I tried.
... you know best.
OINK, OINK
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Old 29 September 2013, 12:20   #32
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How many who are making discouraging remarks have been present when someone was drowned? I have had that experience several times, and believe me, I do not want to be a victim. I have seen people drown needlessly because of panic, and it is something you do not forget. Two occasions were swimmers which accounted for four victims and one survivor who my Dad saved with artificial respiration. I have a healthier respect for water than most people as a result.

There is the thing of exercising common sense however. A jacket can be the cause of being thrown into the water at times, and a propeller is a bad thing to come in contact with.

I have ordered all on board to don their jackets several times however depending on conditions. You need to use your head to realize when the jackets are necessary.
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Old 29 September 2013, 12:22   #33
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As it happens we actually do have 2 in the locker, we use them for boarding, but they're there if we needed them in the worst situation.

I count four people in the boat?

Assuming you and your wife are significantly larger than the kids which seems to be the case i can't see how they are 'well fitting' for everyone, without some adjustment, which doesn't really fit in with the idea of needing a LJ at a moments notice....

Maybe it's because I was brought up to allways wear a lifejacket no matter what, that i think having lifejackets sitting in the floor of the boat is stupid, yur assuming you'll have time to put it on, and your taking up floor space....

I suppose you don't bother with the kill cord either in the harbour?
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Old 29 September 2013, 12:24   #34
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we had life jackets on board in case
Yes, two if I read your post correctly. I guess you would put them on the kids, if you had time?

I'm always somewhat bemused by boaters who don't wear an LJ "because they are near the shore". Beach users are near the shore, but they have an alarming tendency to drown. In conversations with members of the Irish Coast Guard, I learned that during Mayday calls, (after the critical info is exchanged) one of the next things they ask boaters is if they have life jackets for all PAX and if they are actually wearing them. Often they aren't, I can only assume that they are still unable to accept the possibility that they will end up in the water.

Don't get me wrong here - I'm not criticising you, I'm just outlining the risks for other readers in the future who might pick you as a role model.
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I suppose you don't bother with the kill cord either in the harbour?
He said twice that he does. Credit where it's due...
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Old 29 September 2013, 12:27   #36
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He said twice that he does.
so why one and not the other?? just seems bizarre to me...
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so why one and not the other?? just seems bizarre to me...
A little. I like to outline the risks and let the reader make their own mind up. Comments about Pork and so forth aren't going to help get life jackets on those kids. As the CG knows - it's all about Education.
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Another thread on the forum at the moment is about the sinking of a London Duck tour "vessel". The photo from a news site fairly sums up my feelings about life jackets.

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Old 29 September 2013, 12:36   #39
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When I first clicked on your post & saw the pictures I knew that there would be the non life jacket comments coming thick and fast !! To me part of the reason for being a ribnet supporter is the ability to educate and inform rather than to abuse others.
It is a choice some make not to wear lifejackets, kill cords etc etc but it's not one I follow but I respect your choice not to !
If you'd followed some of the recent debates about the kill cord issues and the sad loss of life that ensued due to the choice of the driver not to wear a kill cord you might understand more the passion some members feel about basic safety. Sadly accidents do happen and a lifejacket is one of the easiest of safety aids going.
On a brighter note, welcome to ribnet !!
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How many who are making discouraging remarks have been present when someone was drowned? I have had that experience several times, and believe me, I do not want to be a victim. I have seen people drown needlessly because of panic, and it is something you do not forget. Two occasions were swimmers which accounted for four victims and one survivor who my Dad saved with artificial respiration. I have a healthier respect for water than most people as a result.
OK..so you more than most should understand that lifejackets save lives.

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There is the thing of exercising common sense however. A jacket can be the cause of being thrown into the water at times, and a propeller is a bad thing to come in contact with.
Unless your lifejacket is badly fitting, has loose straps, I can't think when it would be the cause of you being thrown into the water? Out of interest are your lifejackets those huge bulky foam type ? feel like your wearing a neck brace ? no crotch straps ?

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I have ordered all on board to don their jackets several times however depending on conditions. You need to use your head to realize when the jackets are necessary.
hmmm... and after using your head you still dont think they are necessary when you get on a boat? No one expects things to go wrong, when they do you may well have no time to react, and therefore no time to get a lifejacket on.
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