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Old 13 December 2013, 19:49   #1
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1985 zodiac mk3 grand raider

Hi all. New to the forum. Ive recently bought one of these and need to know whether there short or long leg motors.
I know the newer ones are long.
Also what's the best thing to use to bring hypalon back to life?"its faded a bit".
How do these fair in short, choppy up to a meter seas?
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Old 13 December 2013, 20:38   #2
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The best product available in Australia is: 303 Aerospace Protectant. It's a UV Protectant that does not contain silicone (most important). We use to use it on all boats whether PVC or Hypalon.

Here's a link and guide price.

303 AEROSPACE PROTECTOR - Fitch the Rubberman
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Welcome to the forum tottenham.

Pretty sure its a short shaft 15". See link to earlier discussion: Zodiac MKIII GR questions

New GRs now come with long shaft 20".
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Are you sure the boat is Hypalon?
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Easy test is to open one of the Zodiac intercommunicating valves. If the boat material is grey inside and out it's more than likely hypalon. Futuras and Grand Tourism boats from the same era were PVC (Strongan Dutotex). The seams on early boats ran under the lace cuff, and was subsequently moved to under the waterline.
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Surely a Hypalon sib. Sorry to spoil the party, buy you just bought a 28 year oldie that won't stand much longer before developing fabric issues, external parts becoming unglued, seams, baffles issues, you name it. 30 years is the top for them, then surely Waterloo Time.

Best water ride will depend entirely on how well you have all tubes evenly and max inflated to.

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Measure from the motor plate to the bottom of the transom, or to the speed tubes if your model is equipped. About 15" = short shaft, about 20" = long shaft.

Are you sure the boat is Hypalon? I don't deal with the milpro lineup at all, but it was my understanding that the GR was PVC and the Futura Commando was hypalon? I've been wrong before though!
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Yeah done some research and im pritty sure its hypalon, I dont think PVC would last 28 years.
The boat for its age is in good condition, no patches or deep scratches and the seams look ok.
I only paid 800$ for the boat and trailer, the trailers worth 600$ alone. Thats bloody cheap being in Australia.
I only plan on using this for a couple of years as Ive never been in an Inflatable. This is like a tester I suppose. Better to spend 800$ on an oldy than 11500$ on a newy and not like it.
Thanks for your responses.
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Yeah done some research and im pritty sure its hypalon, I dont think PVC would last 28 years.
The boat for its age is in good condition, no patches or deep scratches and the seams look ok.
I only paid 800$ for the boat and trailer, the trailers worth 600$ alone. Thats bloody cheap being in Australia.
I only plan on using this for a couple of years as Ive never been in an Inflatable. This is like a tester I suppose. Better to spend 800$ on an oldy than 11500$ on a newy and not like it.
Thanks for your responses.
Someone traded in a near mint condition 1990 Zodiac Futura MK IIC two months ago with us... There's an early 80s Metzler Maya sitting in the "junk boat" pile that l it has is an air leak.

PVC can last, it just usually doesn't, or it's pretty well spent if it is that old.

Nonetheless, it is pretty easy to tell by feel if the boat is rubber or plastic. Hypalon turns to dust when you sand it, PVC just gouges (or melts if you use a dremel!).
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