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Old 21 April 2010, 14:35   #1
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Winching manually / electronically

I've looked back a few threads and havent found much on winching boats back on to the trailer so I thought i'd start a new one .... whilst i'm perfectly capable of turning that handle on the low gear setting ,it is I have to say not one of the jobs i look forward to at the end of the day on the water ...... I sent an email to Bramber trailers this morning asking them if they sold an electric winch but unfortunately they said no and that they were unlikely to due to salt and corrosion it wasnt a recommended idea ....... anyway I was mulling this problem over with my colleague at work ( a genuine petrol head with tractors, trailers, horse boxes , 4 wheel drive this and that .....you name it he's got it ) and he said that when he winches onto his flatbed trailer he uses a cordless drill with a bit that fits where the winch handle snaps on and presses the trigger on the drill and HEY PRESTO ...... the bit turns the winch and the vehicle is pulled on to the flatbed ...... Eurika ..... surely it cant be that simple ...... so i'm guessing to retreive my Ribeye S650 i'm gonna need a cordless with a fair amount of torque ....... has anyone tried this ? it just seems so obvious
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Old 21 April 2010, 16:34   #2
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Dont know , but I would have thought one of the winches fitted on the front of hundreds of true 4x4 vehilces around the county must be water proof ? after all they use them to pull them selves out of all sorts of places , lakes , rivers and they must get submerged with some of the "wading" they do. I'd put a post on a 4x4 forum and see what they say........
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Yes some of there are (though a lot aren't) but the problem is that a decent 4x4 electric winch costs 500 or so and needs very heavy wiring to the vehicle battery.

I would have thought you'd need either a pretty potent cordless drill or a very low geared winch (which would work fine, but probably not that easy to find). Also I would not trust any 4x4 automatic winch brake to hold a shiny new 20k rib on the trailer while driving on the road!
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Old 21 April 2010, 17:28   #4
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This works well. It connects with Anderson connectors - I have run power from the battery into the rear of the car and just use a fly lead when in use.
... The old Volvo estate had its battery in the spare wheel well so it was perfect .... the newer one doesnt !
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I doubt a regular cordless drill would have the grunt to do any serious winching. Perhaps a really heavy duty hammer drill would do it, don't know.

Never seen that one done before.

There are several brands of electric winches for trailers; the vehicle wiring would be an issue for me. That plus the drain on the tow vehicle battery (nothing like getting stuck on the ramp with a rising tide...)

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my work pal says he can fabricate me a drill socket/bit to fit on the winch ...... will let you know what happens....... fingers crossed......... thanks for everryones advice so far
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That plus the drain on the tow vehicle battery (nothing like getting stuck on the ramp with a rising tide...)
At risk of opening another can of safety related worms, leave the engine running?

Alternatively, carry a "winch battery" in the boot - charged from the caravan battery Aux charging circuit, then you are independant of the vehicle.
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I've looked back a few threads and havent found much on winching boats back on to the trailer so I thought i'd start a new one .... whilst i'm perfectly capable of turning that handle on the low gear setting ,it is I have to say not one of the jobs i look forward to at the end of the day on the water ...... I sent an email to Bramber trailers this morning asking them if they sold an electric winch but unfortunately they said no and that they were unlikely to due to salt and corrosion it wasnt a recommended idea ....... anyway I was mulling this problem over with my colleague at work ( a genuine petrol head with tractors, trailers, horse boxes , 4 wheel drive this and that .....you name it he's got it ) and he said that when he winches onto his flatbed trailer he uses a cordless drill with a bit that fits where the winch handle snaps on and presses the trigger on the drill and HEY PRESTO ...... the bit turns the winch and the vehicle is pulled on to the flatbed ...... Eurika ..... surely it cant be that simple ...... so i'm guessing to retreive my Ribeye S650 i'm gonna need a cordless with a fair amount of torque ....... has anyone tried this ? it just seems so obvious

someone has manufacturered a "cordless windlass" for lock paddles. basically a cordless drill with an extra reduction gearbox, you should be able to google it. i guess it would work for a winch too?
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here you go...

http://lockmasterwindlass.com/
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At risk of opening another can of safety related worms, leave the engine running?

Alternatively, carry a "winch battery" in the boot - charged from the caravan battery Aux charging circuit, then you are independant of the vehicle.
Or hand crank it.

Easier with a smaller boat though.

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