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Old 14 June 2015, 15:52   #11
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There are plenty out there, Look at this on eBay:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-GB

7metre x 50mm H/D winch strap / boat trailer / car trailer + Bolt and Nut


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Old 15 June 2015, 07:10   #12
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Straps are rubbish and I really wonder why companies still sell trailers/winches with them on.

I use 6mm Dyneema, and have for quite a few years. I get mine from Electric Winches and 4x4 Winch Parts Online | Goodwinch €“ Leading Winch Suppliers - the last one for the new trailer was 32 ex vat for 8m of rope and a suitable hook all spliced on, earlier this year. For which price you could buy a 10 winch strap and a couple of gelcoat repair kits for when it breaks...

The Goodwinch blue 6mm Dyneema is rated at 4000kg, the 10mm is rated at 10,900kg so possibly overkill. Other makes will be in the same sort of range. For comparison a quick google shows a typical winch strap is rated at 1500kg.

On all three of the winches I've fitted Dyneema to, there is a hole in the drum where the strap retaining bolt goes through, and to secure it I've just fed the Dyneema through that hole and tied a knot in the end. If you ever need to take it off, cut the knot off, you only lose a few inches of rope. It takes 5 minutes to fit, most of which is winding the rope back on - just as easy as replacing the strap, except it will only need to be done once. I don't know what its useful service life is but the 6mm rope I fitted to my old SBS trailer in 2010 is still fine.
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Old 15 June 2015, 07:18   #13
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Was the strap tight - or did the boat have a chance to roll aft before the load came on to the strap?

If the boat moved first then the snatch load is quite considerable.
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On all three of the winches I've fitted Dyneema to, there is a hole in the drum where the strap retaining bolt goes through, and to secure it I've just fed the Dyneema through that hole and tied a knot in the end. If you ever need to take it off, cut the knot off, you only lose a few inches of rope. It takes 5 minutes to fit, most of which is winding the rope back on - just as easy as replacing the strap, except it will only need to be done once. I don't know what its useful service life is but the 6mm rope I fitted to my old SBS trailer in 2010 is still fine.
BM - my strap is due for replacement. The winch itself works fine, but is rusty on the inside faces of the "drum" that the webbing winds onto. If I was replacing with webbing (which doesn't really rub on those faces) I'd give it a wire brush and some hammerite - would you do the same with Dyneema or because it will be directly in contact would you replace the winch too?
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If you do a good prep & paint job on the winch drum, you should squeeze a few more years out of it. Dymeema does go furry on the outside, but it doesn't affect the strength much.


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Was tight, I will look at dyneema as an option
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I have been uneasy about my webbing and hook for some time. It's only done a couple of seasons. I took it in today to the pros and we unwound the drum. The webbing was all kinked and nasty. At the attachment point (a bolt) it was frayed down to 50% attached - I'd guess only friction as holding in on. The bolt was bent.

So, new hook and a full drum of 10mm Dyneema.
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I have been uneasy about my webbing and hook for some time. It's only done a couple of seasons. I took it in today to the pros and we unwound the drum. The webbing was all kinked and nasty. At the attachment point (a bolt) it was frayed down to 50% attached - I'd guess only friction as holding in on. The bolt was bent.

So, new hook and a full drum of 10mm Dyneema.
That Kuplex hook will take some looking after, beware.
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Plan is to spray it with low sling maintenance grease now and then keep an eye on it. The thimble is to protect the rope from rust. I need something that can take a bit of strain...
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Plan is to spray it with low sling maintenance grease now and then keep an eye on it. The thimble is to protect the rope from rust. I need something that can take a bit of strain...
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