Wheel Studs Broke - Could have been Horendous

[Bigplumbs]

In May we towed our 17 Foot speed boat to Devon for the Annual speed boat rally we attend. The tow was a good 7 hrs

On the way home I had a bearing failure and had to be relayed home by the AA. The wheel on that side got very hot indeed.

I have now got round to replacing the complete 1300 kg axel which went well. The old Axel was only about 6 year old at most.

Upon removing the wheel on the old axel on the side that did not get hot. I repeat on the side that did not get hot two of the wheel studs snapped of with the minimum of pressure on the wheel wrench. Upon putting the bolt in the vice the nuts would turn very easily. I had greased them.


Although I still had 2 good studs I think that on the journey home I would have very likely lost the wheel on a major road (M25 for example)


This does not bear thinking about and I am at a loss as to why they broke with such little force

The axel was bought from Trailertek and made by Peak

[jeffstevens763@g]

ive had one shear hitting a pothole must be metal fatigue lots of stuff made abroad isn't up to it IMO you've been lucky there BP

[Bigplumbs]

Yes Lucky indeed. If I had not had the other side bearing go I would have been towing it all the way home on 2 bolts... Mind you that is most likely all I had towing it there.

I recon I overtightened it. I have just bought myself a torque wrench...…

[Fender]

Originally Posted by Bigplumbs

I recon I overtightened it. I have just bought myself a torque wrench...…

Thought you were a bit of a self confessed engine guru owning and fixing numerous types for all manor of different applications.....................and yet you've only just now purchased a torque wrench??

[Bigplumbs]

Originally Posted by Fender

Thought you were a bit of a self confessed engine guru owning and fixing numerous types for all manor of different applications.....................and yet you've only just now purchased a torque wrench??

Wrong and unhelpful as usual

[Fender]

Originally Posted by Bigplumbs

Wrong and unhelpful as usual

Least my wheels don't fall off................................

I see you've posted the same thread on YBW Could Have been very Dangerous - Page 2 , A little bit of HPD going on Mr BP??

[Bigplumbs]

Originally Posted by Fender

Least my wheels don't fall off................................

I see you've posted the same thread on YBW Could Have been very Dangerous - Page 2 , A little bit of HPD going on Mr BP??

I have no idea what you are on about and have no interest in any of your posts.

One day perhaps you might post something that might help or assist others rather than simply have a pop all the time

[Lee argyle]

Originally Posted by Bigplumbs

I have no idea what you are on about and have no interest in any of your posts.

One day perhaps you might post something that might help or assist others rather than simply have a pop all the time

Google’s your friend

‘Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking emotions’

Big Plumbs, I’ve got to admit most treads you start or contribute to end up in a quarrel

[Orwell boy]

To be fair ,its hard to see how a guy who posts a warning too others ,genuinely trying to make sure others don,t risk danger ,admitting it may be his over tightening which has brought about the problem ,,,,,,,,and basically just saying "be careful "
Why would anybody slag him off ,personally i would like to say thanks for the information ,i wil check mine tommorow !!

[The Black Pig]

Originally Posted by Orwell boy

To be fair ,its hard to see how a guy who posts a warning too others ,genuinely trying to make sure others don,t risk danger ,admitting it may be his over tightening which has brought about the problem ,,,,,,,,and basically just saying "be careful "
Why would anybody slag him off ,personally i would like to say thanks for the information ,i wil check mine tommorow !!

No time like the present, I’m going to get the missus to check my nuts right away

[Simonh66]

Originally Posted by Lee argyle

Google’s your friend

‘Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking emotions’

Big Plumbs, I’ve got to admit most treads you start or contribute to end up in a quarrel

[jeffstevens763@g]

Originally Posted by Orwell boy

To be fair ,its hard to see how a guy who posts a warning too others ,genuinely trying to make sure others don,t risk danger ,admitting it may be his over tightening which has brought about the problem ,,,,,,,,and basically just saying "be careful "
Why would anybody slag him off ,personally i would like to say thanks for the information ,i wil check mine tommorow !!

totally agree i like a pi$$ take & banter but this could have had a serious outcome a least the bloke admits it could be him & not hiding anything.

[Fender]

Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

totally agree i like a pi$$ take & banter but this could have had a serious outcome a least the bloke admits it could be him & not hiding anything.

My observation was that Mr BP has on a number of occasions tried to come across as a mechanical god, with experience and ownership of every engine known to man ( I'm elaborating just a little bit ) and only recently purchased a torque wrench, which is a bit of a contradiction - in my book
100% agree about the wheel coming off and glad no-one was hurt, just a little pride and hopefully lesson learnt

Certain individuals do like attention and start identical threads on different forums, which is absolutely fine and their prerogative, but not something that's ever appealed to me

All the above is obviously IMHO

Final point, BP has given out enough cr@p to other posters on this forum ( and other sites ), he should be man enough to take a little back

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by Fender

My observation was that Mr BP has on a number of occasions tried to come across as a mechanical god, with experience and ownership of every engine known to man.......

Here’s a pretty comprehensive list.....
Mariner 60HP 2 Stroke ELPTO Smokes huge on Initial Start
http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread.php?p=792716

[jeffstevens763@g]

oh i read all BP'S threads and your right some own goals, but i treat each thread on its own merits and this one is one the most important the consequences could be catastrophic the trailer is one of the most overlooked by many thats all i'm saying.

to further this how many do use a torque wrench never supplied by car manufactures for wheel nuts i just hand tighten and stand on it [wheel brace] never had one loosen.

[Fender]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Here’s a pretty comprehensive list.....
Mariner 60HP 2 Stroke ELPTO Smokes huge on Initial Start
Mariner 60HP 2 Stroke ELPTO Smokes huge on Initial Start - Page 2 - RIBnet Forums

Indeed..............

Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

oh i read all BP'S threads and your right some own goals, but i treat each thread on its own merits and this one is one the most important the consequences could be catastrophic the trailer is one of the most overlooked by many thats all i'm saying.

to further this how many do use a torque wrench never supplied by car manufactures for wheel nuts i just hand tighten and stand on it [wheel brace] never had one loosen.

Personally () regarding his thread/s merits.................Leopards and spots and all that

And regarding the torque wrench - I probably very poorly explained my thinking, it wasn't the fact that he did or didn't use a torque wrench on his trailer wheel nuts - it was the fact he'd only just purchased one considering he'd been a fusion reactor engineer (), a rocket scientist () and owned and worked on every type or internal combustion engine that has ever been manufactured - you'd expect that the item of kit we're discussing would be at the top of any professional ( or even hobbyists ) mechanics tool box

Oh, I wonder if he had been a fusion reactor engineer in a past life was he in the Ukraine in 86? Makes sense............:rofl :

[Orwell boy]

to further this how many do use a torque wrench never supplied by car manufactures for wheel nuts i just hand tighten and stand on it [wheel brace] never had one loosen.[/QUOTE]

iI think this is the very point he is making !!!............he too stood on the bar and broke the studs ,they were not loose ,it would appear too tight (actually poss cracked for a year or more before he went to change axle ,the broken studs were on the side that didn,t get hot on his recent aa home tow
personally i wouldnt use a torqe wrench for wheel bolts /nuts but i am amazed those peak axles come with studs sticking out the hubs not loose bolts, just shows we get all the regs for trailers and try to stay safe ,and the manufacturers technology is from the fifties

[jeffstevens763@g]

the thing is corrosion would increase the torque needed to undo the nuts so it might not be over tighten merely just maybe undo and grease now and then to prevent it.

[charliee]

Oh I love this forum; with Torque wrench in hand I just wondered if anyone can suggest a suitable torque setting to affix some steel "ifor whilliams" style wheels to an 1800kg single axle trailer having hubs with M16 5 stud 6.5” PCD?

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by charliee

Oh I love this forum; with Torque wrench in hand I just wondered if anyone can suggest a suitable torque setting to affix some steel "ifor whilliams" style wheels to an 1800kg single axle trailer having hubs with M16 5 stud 6.5” PCD?

I prescribe a 1/2 windy gun set to “full”