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Old 08 August 2013, 01:20   #1
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My trailer does not have a VIN - it has a serial number only on the plate. I am now in DK and they want a VIN to register it. Any suggestions?
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Old 09 August 2013, 13:52   #2
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Assuming it's a UK trailer that you've imported to DK I think your best bet is to get the DK authorities to issue you with a VIN if possible, UK trailers don't generally have them. There must be a mechanism to import a non-VIN trailer from another EU country into DK, surely.
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Thanks a lot for the advice - I'll try that. I also wrote to VOSA for advice and will post what they answer! All other ideas welcomed...
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Have a search on here, I'm fairly confident this has been delved into before, it may help point you in the right direction.

IIRC the other poster/postee had to obtain some paperwork from the uk manufacturer stating it was type approved etc.
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UK trailer might be a challenge to register In Sweden and Finland, regarding DK, don't know.

Main challenge is maybe not the missing serial but CE and other technical documentation that can be hard to obtain, depends also on the component used by the manufacturer.

I was allowed to stamp the serial from the plate to the frame and got is sorted.

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If your trailer meets EU type approval, then you should have a VIN number and registering it should be simple. This should be the case for any trailer built since 29th October 2012. There are however some manufacturers still selling trailers without type approval, claiming they have an exemption, but recent VOSA guidance clearly shows there is no exemption available. If your trailer does not meet type approval, registering it will be much more complicated, as you will have to produce paperwork to show that all the components are CE compliant and add side marker lights and outline markers which are required in most other EU countries.
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Thanks for all the help . So far they told me I can't have the serial number stamped, it must be the VIN. UK trailers, I think I learnt, don't have a VIN. I have got a data verification form filled out by mersea (who bought bramber who made my trailer) this form can be used in lieu of a UK registration document .... but .... Seems still the problem is they want a VIN stamped in the trailer for a visual inspection and don't accept that UK trailers don't have one . Nightmare!
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If your trailer meets EU type approval, then you should have a VIN number and registering it should be simple. This should be the case for any trailer built since 29th October 2012. There are however some manufacturers still selling trailers without type approval, claiming they have an exemption, but recent VOSA guidance clearly shows there is no exemption available. If your trailer does not meet type approval, registering it will be much more complicated, as you will have to produce paperwork to show that all the components are CE compliant and add side marker lights and outline markers which are required in most other EU countries.
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If your trailer meets EU type approval, then you should have a VIN number and registering it should be simple. This should be the case for any trailer built since 29th October 2012. There are however some manufacturers still selling trailers without type approval, claiming they have an exemption, but recent VOSA guidance clearly shows there is no exemption available. If your trailer does not meet type approval, registering it will be much more complicated, as you will have to produce paperwork to show that all the components are CE compliant and add side marker lights and outline markers which are required in most other EU countries.
Mersea bought bramber in 2010 so this trailer seems to predate the new rules.

Moore, do people build kit cars (or modify customer vehicles) or make DIY trailers in Denmark at all? In the UK an individual vehicle (including a trailer) can be assessed for compliance with UK legislation by taking it for an "Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA)". This is a bit like a very detailed MOT test on that specific vehicle.

My understanding is that kit car builders in the UK would do this by:

- getting the vehicle assessed
- applying for the vin number
- getting the vin number stamped on the vehicle.
- once the vin number is stamped then for vehicles requiring a log book the dvla will issue the log book!

A similar process is used for imported vehicles that are not EU type approved. They will usually already have some sort of VIN number on them - and DVLA are likely to use the same number. If you can understand that Danish process for imports / kit cars it will probably help with the trailer process.

If its like the UK, the whole process is likely to cost quite a bit - and involve running around a lot - depending on the age and condition of the trailer it may be better/easier to sell the trailer as a "yard" trailer (not for road use) and replace it.
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Thanks for that - my trailer is older than you mention which I guess is why it idea not have that VIN. I know it is complicated but I guess as UK and DK are both in EU there must be a way!
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