Vanclaes disc braked trailer - Page 3

mick · 02 November 2018, 18:45

Not been mentioned to me before

Pikey Dave · 02 November 2018, 19:10

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Originally Posted by mick

Not been mentioned to me before

Me neither, saying that, I’ve just stripped down 2 hubs for the first time in 3 years & they are in perfect condition apart from some scaling on the discs. I only stripped them because I felt I ought to. Should’ve left them alone.

Orwell boy · 02 November 2018, 19:59

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Originally Posted by xpertski

Hi Mick, do you know if there is a way to fit those rollers on a standard roller trailer? Mines a bramber roller. I need to find a way of lifting the boat up on the trailer by a couple inches so the keel doesn’t rest on the centre roller ...Attachment 127523

Get a roller bunk system ! , all aircraft grade ally , adjustable height and you never need your wheels in above tyre wall , you can drop your boat off onto the back lawn if you fancy, and then winch it back on again , i too left the boat show with a vc brochure ,beutifully engineered ,did,nt ask if it was 316 st st .but assume at the price it is ,certainly would,nt see any benefit if its magnetic .
I have a note on my brochure that disc brakes are £1000 per axle extra

Pikey Dave · 02 November 2018, 23:12

They are 304. The magnetic properties of raw 304 & 316 are similar, I.e generally not very magnetically attractive. The addition of Nickel reduces magnetic attraction, but this isn’t the whole story. The way the metal is worked has a big impact on its magnetic properties, heating, cooling, forging, welding will all affect the way stainless reacts with a magnet, consider your expensive kitchen knives & the magnetic knife rack. The same grades of stainless can be made magnetic/non-magnetic just by applying various post production treatments.

RickW · 06 November 2018, 10:21

Also asked about the stainless alloy - as I guess you know 304 isn’t as good as 316 from a corrosion perspective but 316 in considerably more expensive

Orwell boy · 06 November 2018, 15:46

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Originally Posted by RickW

Also asked about the stainless alloy - as I guess you know 304 isn’t as good as 316 from a corrosion perspective but 316 in considerably more expensive

Yes i am not really sure 304 is worth the bother alone ,its the hubs or discs that make these trailers attractive ,not sure 304 would stand up any longer than unbroken galvanised British steel ,by unbroken i mean beefore someone decides to cut a foot off or drill a few holes for mounting a step or similar .

Bushrider · 09 November 2018, 11:54

After I almost ordered another trailer I got a good offer .
So Vanclaes trailer with disc brakes and GYRO system ordered ...

M.Thornton · 09 November 2018, 14:50

Looking forward to seeing the new rig Jurgen

Bushrider · 09 November 2018, 14:52

Mike - good boat / good Trailer [emoji6]

M.Thornton · 10 November 2018, 08:28

The Vanclaes fifth wheel trailer is a very interesting ( but very very expensive )
Option for those with deep pockets who need to tow over 3500 kg

Bushrider · 10 November 2018, 08:38

XO ?
Change the Tiguan for Amarok

M.Thornton · 10 November 2018, 09:57

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Originally Posted by Bushrider

XO ?
Change the Tiguan for Amarok

Think it would have to be RAM or American Ford Jurgan

Bushrider · 11 July 2019, 04:15

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Originally Posted by Bushrider

After I almost ordered another trailer I got a good offer .
So Vanclaes trailer with disc brakes and GYRO system ordered ...

Since more than half a year the Scorpion sits on the Vanclaes trailer . I got the weight on the nose right and towing this combination is just a pleasure . Beside of the weight the trailer runs like a shadow behind the car - absolutely calm , very pleased with the disc brakes and the boat sits on the rollers like on a cushion . Towed this year from Berlin to Easdale and via Southampton back to Berlin - runs really nice .
Launching and recovering is a dream as well - especially with the BoatCatch .
What does not make me happy is the fact that after just this 6 month a couple of air rollers are already flat ! Before I bought this trailer I talked to Vanclaes telling that air rollers are a no go based on bad experience I had in the past - but with cheap Chinese rollers .
I was told that they are using rollers which are made of far higher quality and are used for medical equipment , wheel chairs etc
While the other option - the plastic wheels are deforming with a heavy boat sitting on the trailer the recommendation was to go with the air filled rollers .
My Scorpion 8.1 diesel weights with full tank nearly 2.3t but this weight should not be even critical because the trailer is rated for 3.5t !
The good news is that Vanclaes without hesitation will replace the flat rollers under warranty but the bad news probably is that this problem with continue and I will permanently replace occasionally rollers .
Anybody out there with a Vanclaes trailer who has the same problem ?

jeffstevens763@g · 11 July 2019, 08:43

not for the same trailer but i bought two of these puncture proof one so far very good

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Bushrider · 11 July 2019, 09:02

I know them but the load capacity is far to low to carry the weight of the Scorpion .
They would deform .

jeffstevens763@g · 11 July 2019, 10:22

could you go solid rubber tyres

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Bushrider · 11 July 2019, 12:19

Yes- there are heavy duty rollers available but beside of price they will add enormous weight to the trailer

Pikey Dave · 11 July 2019, 13:57

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Originally Posted by Bushrider

Yes- there are heavy duty rollers available but beside of price they will add enormous weight to the trailer

Drop Mick a line, he has the pneumatic tyres & afaik no problem. I have the solid wheels which I prefer. Which tyres have failed, are they the ones at the end of the gyro roller? I.e the first ones that the boat hits when recovering?

jeffstevens763@g · 11 July 2019, 14:16

there's a lot of cheap inner tubes around ive just changed one on a jockey wheel it was perforated less than a year old i'm going to fill my new ones with the bicycle repair gunge just incase

Bushrider · 11 July 2019, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Which tyres have failed, are they the ones at the end of the gyro roller? I.e the first ones that the boat hits when recovering?

No - not the end rollers - somewhere in the middle . Randomly - inner rollers , outer rollers ..

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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

i'm going to fill my new ones with the bicycle repair gunge just incase

That could be worth it to try !
But would be better to disassemble first a few rollers to see where exactly the air leak is .
May be its the valve which is ripped out - then the bicycle repair kit will not have any effect .