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Old 14 January 2016, 16:09   #1
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Upgrading winch cable Fulton T3205

Hi all,

I've had some recent wear & tear to the steel cable on my dive club's trailer winch. When I reeled in the boat last weekend there were a lot of nasty spiky bits and a rather split section which had me worried about snappage and loss of an eyeball.

The winch itself is in good nick, but given the current condition of the cable I am not keen on putting another steel cable. After a bit of research, I have seen that people are quite complimentary towards dyneema and I wondered if anyone had any experiences on using this for a Fulton T3205 or similar winch.

Anyone got any advice or better ideas?

Thanks in advance!

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Old 14 January 2016, 16:38   #2
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i would save the money and just get a strap to suit the winch.
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Old 14 January 2016, 16:40   #3
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i would save the money and just get a strap to suit the winch.
I did ask the manufacturer and they said that it was not compatible with a strap. To be honest, that was my first thought...
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The off road guys are moving to Dyneema from steel rope. I moved to dyneema from a strap. It's FAR easier to guide under load. Pricey but worth it in my case.
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Dyneema👍 not expensive if you go to the right place. I paid around £50 for a 7m 12mm
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I did ask the manufacturer and they said that it was not compatible with a strap. To be honest, that was my first thought...
oh well, looks like you are stuck with dyneema then.

if you search the forum you will find some links for good places in UK to buy it.

i can't comment on how easy one is to load versus the other. i just wind the handle until the boat is at the front, never need to touch the strap in my case.
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Synthetic rope dos'nt last as long as wire, more susceptible to abrasion wear, UV damage and also if the winch has a internal brake in its drum any heat build-up can potentially melt the rope ( extreme cases). However it's much safer than wire , lighter, stronger and user friendly. Used it for many years and wouldn't go back to wire
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Synthetic rope dos'nt last as long as wire, more susceptible to abrasion wear, UV damage

I'd question that, especially in the marine environment
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Talk to Goodwinch in Devon, David Bowyer will supply it by the metre with a hook spliced on, so you can buy whatever you need to suit the trailer length.

I have been using it for ten years now and have had zero issues and I cannot imagine a single reason why anybody would use anything else, either wire or those silly straps (and I have previously used both). I also use it on the hydraulic winch on my Defender and likewise wouldn't use anything else.

Mine is this stuff, though I didn't buy 15m, I only use about 7m on my drum, if you email them they will supply whatever length you want:

Dyneema® Bowrope 6mm x 15m - Goodwinch

I live under what's left of the hole in the ozone layer, and can confirm you don't particularly need to worry about UV light! In any case the 6mm is rated at 4,000kg whereas most straps are only about half that:

http://www.goodwinch.com/wp-content/...08/dyneema.pdf

I simply fitted mine on both the winches I have used (both of which were very similar to your Fulton) by feeding it through the hole in the side of the winch drum where the strap retaining bolt went through, putting an M6 washer over the end of the rope, and tying a knot in it. If you do manage to cut or break it you can splice it fairly easily, which you can't do with a strap. But it really is fit and forget! If the drum doesn't already have a suitable hole, you can drill one (would need to be about 7mm).
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Next time mine (strap) needs changing I'm going to dyneema.
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