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Old 16 April 2008, 21:49   #1
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I'm doing a bit of work on my Trailer at the mo, for example I'm replacing all the bolts that hold it together as they are very rusty, and am hoping to swap out all the rusty roller washers and split pins for Stainless ones.

I'm currently stocking up on everything I'll need, and am considering having a batch of Stainless washers made up as I can't find them in the right size anywhere. 54mm OD, 26mm ID, 2mm thick.
Unless anyone knows where to find them, or even plated Mild steel ones at a reasonable cost.
By the way, I have an inbuilt problem with going anywhere near a rip-off indespension dealer.

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Hmm, 2mm, thats called a pipe in the Army, have a look at this specification for pipes

http://www.mipmip.org/tidbits/pipe-spec.shtml

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Old 16 April 2008, 22:00   #3
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Thanks Pete, thats very helpful, I can now broaden my search to very short lengths of thick wall pipe.

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Will stainless washers survive if they are up against a load of galvanised stuff? (like the rest of your trailer!)

You may actually be better going for some "traditional" zinc plated, but from a reputable source as opposed to overpriced washers that may have vaguely passed within 100 yds of some galvanised fencing on the way to a certian retial outlet........
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Will stainless washers survive if they are up against a load of galvanised stuff? (like the rest of your trailer!)

You may actually be better going for some "traditional" zinc plated, but from a reputable source as opposed to overpriced washers that may have vaguely passed within 100 yds of some galvanised fencing on the way to a certian retial outlet........
closest stocked size
1.1/4 ID X 2.3/8 OD 4.4 mm galv = £60.00 Per hundred at my local supplier
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Thanks Guys

Unfortunately I think the 4.4mm rules the standard ones out, as getting the Split Pins in can be a bit tight with the 2mm thick washers.

I've asked a company I use for work to quote making a batch in Stainless.
They don't come anywhere near any Galvanised steel as the shafts are Ali.

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Baseline Marine (http://www.baselinemarine.com, phone 01489 576349) have a few stainless 50mm OD, 27mm ID, 2mm thick in stock at 95p each.
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I have 51mm dia x 2mm 316 plates that we have laser cut for blanking the ends of tube handrails. Trouble is I ain't got a 26mm punch to put the hole in the middle. That would be 50 quid minimum
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How many do you need Nasher?
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Hi Andy, I would need a complete set, plus half a dozen spares - 70 in total

Managed to chock the bow of the RIB up this evening and remove the front swing bar and roller assemblies with the boat still on the trailer.

Going off the idea of Stainless now.

Think I'm going to stick with the Galv ones I've got as they are in better shape than I thought, will just need a few spares then.

I'm going to drill the arms out to use long roll pins with plenty of grease at the backs of the rollers, but am struggling to find 4mm x 35mm Split pins on the shelf in Pompey area for the outsides of the rollers. Need to try and get the front set finished off this weekend so only have tomorrow afternoon to find the split pins.
Cromwells are usualy very good, but don't sell split pins at all, and neither do Priority fasteners.

Are there any Engineers suppliers in Fareham open on a Saturday Morning?

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Can trailer tek help you out? Should be going there over the weekend for my U bolts.

I was going to offer to make you some special washers out of 316, but 70 I think that'll take me all day to part them off

What's wrong with using stainless with galvanizing?
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Can trailer tek help you out? Should be going there over the weekend for my U bolts.

I was going to offer to make you some special washers out of 316, but 70 I think that'll take me all day to part them off

What's wrong with using stainless with galvanizing?
Kind of you to think about offering, but I wouldn't have let you make 70!

Its only really the split pins I'm missing now and I'm not sure Trailertek would have them, they are a good company though.
The Roll pins should be in stock at Cromwells opposite work, and I'll be getting a length of Silver steel so I can make a punch to remove the remains of the old split pins.

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Do you have any Agricultural Engineers near you? When I need to replace split pins on trailer rollers for customers I get them from our local Agricultural engineers they have them in stock as farmers use a lot of them on agricultural equipment.
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Do you have any Agricultural Engineers near you? When I need to replace split pins on trailer rollers for customers I get them from our local Agricultural engineers they have them in stock as farmers use a lot of them on agricultural equipment.
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Thanks Richard - Good tip
unfortunately I already brought some this afternoon.
4mm x 65mm Stainless steel that I'll need to cut down
70 off were £28

Found them in a little known Engineers suppliers in Pompey - Touts.

I've been offered some Lazer cut Washers in 2mm 316 SS at £1ea if I buy 250.
Anybody want some?

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What's wrong with using stainless with galvanizing?
If you use stainless with galvanised the zinc will protect the stainless and erode more quickly than it otherwise would. This will leave the base steel exposed and open to corrode.

It shouldn't be a structural issue but you will get some rust streaks / staining.

Often seen where a galvanised anchor and chain have been joined with a stainless shackle. Would have been better, and cheaper, to use a galvanised shackle.
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