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Old 26 January 2013, 14:04   #61
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There could be some 4 lane dual carriageways for all I know, but I can't think of any off hand.
The River Thames Dartford crossing (QEII bridge/tunnel) has 4 lanes approaching the toll booths and 13 (maybe 14) booth lanes, so I suggest that there are dual carriageways with 4 (and more) lanes!
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Old 26 January 2013, 15:21   #62
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That says " Towed outfits are not permitted in the outside lane of a three or more lane motorway unless other lanes are closed."

Why do you think it applies to dual carriageways?
Right at the top it says "You might know that it's illegal to tow in the outside lane of a motorway or dual carriageway with 3 or more lanes"
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It's actually the "inside lane".
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Right at the top it says "You might know that it's illegal to tow in the outside lane of a motorway or dual carriageway with 3 or more lanes"
Ah, missed that bit. I wonder if it's actually correct? It doesn't give any reference, and I'm not sure that a caravan owners' club is necessarily the most authoritative source.
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It's actually the "inside lane".
No, the inside (or nearside) lane is the left hand lane, nearest the side of the road. Don't know why, it just is.
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What this entire thread nicely demonstrates is the whole thing is a total and utter mess!!

There must be a much easier and simpler way of applied rules that achieve the outcome of safe towing FFS!!

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Well I disagree. It is a piece of nomenclature that is grossly misused. The same as people saying "tender hooks" instead of "tenter hooks" and "glitters" instead of "glisters", when it comes to "All that glisters is not gold".
Even the DfT can get it wrong. On a dual carriageway, the overtaking lanes are the inside lanes.
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I did just come across this
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum.../dg_185825.pdf
as a overnment document. Page 11 describes the "outside lane" restriction for motorways, no mention of other 3+ lane roads
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But I agree with Chris. It's daft that it's so hard to work out what these rules are
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No, the inside (or nearside) lane is the left hand lane, nearest the side of the road. Don't know why, it just is.
Everything is relative to standing on the pavement/kerb and terminology predates dual carriageways. So inside/nearside is nearest the pavement/kerb ie left lane or passenger side of car. Outside/offside is lane furthest from pavement/kerb or drivers side of car.
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