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Old 16 January 2013, 03:47   #41
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As you may be discovering this is not really the place to ask your question.

IMHO the more reliable place would be the Caravan Club site, they have many experts in towing law. The downside is as a none member (i assume) you may find access restricted.

The other places I would look is the Gov websites and the Highway Code.

I would also endorse asking a Traffic Officer, you will need to find a helpful one. Despite what has been said (cynically) here, they are knowledgeable.

You are certainly right to check this out.

Finally, you may want check your insurance regarding towing.

Finally finally (!) Be careful on the slipway, watch for green algae which is slippier than ice. And don't hog the slip, get on and off again as quickly as possible.

Happy boating.

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Old 16 January 2013, 03:52   #42
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I drive a 1.4L Fiesta which has a rated tow capacity of 900kgs and I've towed several different trailers and weights with it no problems.
That's braked. the 750Kg tops limit still applies. Your unbraked limit is likely going to be nearer 350-400 going simply on a guess of the kerbweight. - bottom line is check the Handbook / V5. Thats what they'll use if you get into a nasty mess with it.


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My towbar was 30 second hand off eBay, fitted myself in about 30 mins, had it checked and wired in by a mobile fitter for an extra 15.
Just one postscript to that - these days the bar itself it needs to be type approved. Not a problem if you buy it new from a reputable source, but be a little more careful if using an Ebay offering.

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If you're planning on launching with it, it's worth practising reversing in an empty car park, for me when I started it was just towing in a straight line - so I've only recently had to practice reversing!
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I'd recommend letting the insurance company know you're towing as well. There's no increase in premium or excess, but it's safer they have it on file.
+1 again. (comes back to the type approval for the bar comment above)


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Looks like i wont be towing for a while anyway! The engine service is getting more and more expensive
What's happened?
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Old 16 January 2013, 08:43   #43
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IMHO the more reliable place would be the Caravan Club site, they have many experts in towing law. The downside is as a none member (i assume) you may find access restricted.

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With respect if he got pulled the answer "It's OK the caravan club said it was fine" probably wouldn't stand for much!
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Totally agree, and, with respect, that's not what I meant.

If anyone gets pulled over and gives any excuse, you will still be prosecuted because it is always the driver' responsibility to drive legal. This would happen even if it was the Highway Code being quoted, although this might help in mitigation.

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It may help to arrive at a conclusion, or, ideally, a definitive reference that makes the situation clear.

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Old 16 January 2013, 11:20   #45
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Can't you print something like this ;

http://www.dft.gov.uk/dvla/forms/~/m...ets/INF30.ashx

Stick it in the car ( just in case) ....
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Now that's about as definitive as it gets, except, perhaps, a court appearance ;-)

Search over.

Would like to add my thanks for the link, very useful.
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The other things you need to be aware of when towing are speed limits: these tend to be lower (see https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits) and motorway driving outside lane usage (see https://www.gov.uk/motorways-253-to-...ine-264-to-266).
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Just one postscript to that - these days the bar itself it needs to be type approved. Not a problem if you buy it new from a reputable source, but be a little more careful if using an Ebay offering.

Absolutely, I made sure it's type approved and, got the towbar fitter to ensure it was all safe and legal. I couldn't justify paying 300 for professional fitting!

I recently got pulled towing by a traffic officer near Manchester...he insisted I required a towing license (while towing my YAM 330 with no engine with a trailer rated for 350kg), and also insisted that I was speeding at 60mph on the mororway, when the limit is 55mph. Both of which are utter......

Agreed some officers know what they're talking about, and at the same time, there's a lot of laws and technicalities that not everyone knows. I wouldn't ask one for advice - I'd want it on paper.
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The unbraked 750 kgs trailer rule used to be as I get it is & never had any bother even when stopped by the police for mandatory checks

You can tow an unbraked trailer up to 750 kgs as long as the tow car is double the actual trailer weight .
Eg
Saxo --weight of car 800 kgs so max unbraked trailer you could tow with it would be 400 kgs .
Eg
Zafira ---weight of car 1338 kgs so max unbraked trailer you could tow would be 669 kgs
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The unbraked 750 kgs trailer rule used to be as I get it is & never had any bother towing boat over 30 years even when stopped by the police for mandatory checks

As i get it you can tow an unbraked trailer up to 750 kgs as long as the tow car is double the actual trailer weight .
Eg
Saxo --weight of car 800 kgs so max unbraked trailer you could tow with it would be 400 kgs .
Eg
Zafira ---weight of car 1338 kgs so max unbraked trailer you could tow would be 669 kgs
So if you had a ford transit van that weighs 1.5 ton you could tow an unbraked trailer of 750 kgs
over that the trailer needs brakes & it used to be weight for weight unless the towing car was something like a landrover ..
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