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Old 14 January 2013, 16:41   #21
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Your best asking the dvla or department of transport. Even vosa. Either that or even a driving instructor who teaches towing ?

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The Gov site that covers it is this one - https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/d...at-you-can-tow

Think I've seen it some where before
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Old 14 January 2013, 16:43   #22
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Ive asked 3 officers so far...not one of them knew for sure but didnt think it would be a problem. Didnt really want to just go on "should be fine i think" though!
Good on you for doing that..........and now you try the next rung up the tree. The nearest test centre. Even then you should go to where you took your test. if they're empty, get the cop that told you "it should be ok" to write that down, sign it and agree to defend you if you get pulled........it won't happen but you get the idea Luke.
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Old 14 January 2013, 17:06   #23
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haha cheers for the help guys! Asking a trailer test center seems like a good plan! Theyll be my next stop i think
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Old 14 January 2013, 17:15   #24
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Hahahaha they have even less of a clue than us lot do

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Best I've had is "you can tow a trailer but not a caravan"
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Old 14 January 2013, 17:26   #25
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Best I've had is "you can tow a trailer but not a caravan"
Well to be fair that should be a law anyway

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I should do a written request and ask for a written answer so you have something in writing to produce if you get stopped.
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haha cheers for the help guys! Asking a trailer test center seems like a good plan! Theyll be my next stop i think
Luke, the wording and terminology is all a bit confusing, but the link treerat has posted is an official position - if you are concerned print it off and keep it in the glove box. HOWEVER without knowing the figures for your car/trailer its all a bit hypothetical.

700 kg seems wrong for such a small car. I'd have expect something more like 400 kg. As Tim says it should be in the manual. The VIN plate will show maximum weight with braked trailer. I believe the unbraked trailer weight is half the cars kerb weight (note this is the "minimum" weight of the car not its maximum).

I'd suggest don't go asking more people. Understand the rules and the numbers as they apply to your situation - anyone official is just going to quote rules, or misinterpretations of them at you.

I wouldn't rush to do the training to "upgrade" as Peter is suggesting. At 18 it will probably be some time before you can afford a boat you can't tow with your current licence by which time you will probably have forgotten / learned bad habits. Find a big empty car park and practice towing there. Then practice reversing. Then find some cones or simillar and practice simulating narrow spaces like slipways. With nobody around to put pressure on you'll learn quicker than under the pressure at the slip or trying to learn a specific manouvre for a test. Once you think you've got it mastered, drop the boat off somewhere and practice with the empty trailer - its much harder!
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Or take your licence. Look and see what categories you have and go to:

https://www.gov.uk/driving-licence-categories

You should have cat B. It clearly states the trailer rules. You need to know the MAM of the trailer , the weight of the car. Car looks to be ~860kg. The trailer is unbraked soi should be < 750kg. It needs to be < 700kg to comply with the spec for the car. 1560kg is less than 3500kg so anyone with a full Cat B licence can tow. simples.

Now go get yourslef a bigger car and a heavier breaked trailer and try figure out if you are legal!!
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I'll second Poly on the weight thing - Unbraked is half the car's GVW or 750KG (whichever is the lighter) I.e you could still only tow 750Kg in an unbraked trailer even if you hitched it to a 7 Tonne truck and had a full class 1 HGV licence...) - That 700Kg might be it's braked limit - I used to drive a 1.2L Fiesta which was something like 690Kg (I think - it wasn't yesterday!) with a braked trailer. I only towed a laser, so the 100 odd KG trailer wasn't an issue.....

The towing limits are calculated as a mixture of braking ability and ability to essentially climb Grossglokner without expiring. So if you look at any car the "big diesel" variant will probably be able to tow a bit more than the 1.0L eco version, but not a lot more - 'coz of the braking....

Put it in perspective, I drive a Focus Estate with a huge lump of oil burning cast iron under the bonnet - I can JUST tow 750Kg unbraked - the car's GVW is 1600kg or thereabouts.
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I'll second Poly on the weight thing - Unbraked is half the car's GVW or 750KG (whichever is the lighter)
thats not quite what I said though... I think its 50% of KERB weight (which is something like empty car+driver+fuel) rather than GVW which is fully laden.
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