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Old 07 October 2018, 10:25   #1
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Anybody thinking of re-wiring their trailer over the winter, this maybe of interest

https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/7-cor...-21a-15mm.html
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Maybe this is of interest too? How anyone can bear flakey 7pin electrics is beyond me so the first job on my new (used) trailer was to convert to 13pin and I can't get over the quality of this plug with gold plated pins for just £4 (inc delivery) from a UK seller.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/13-Pin-To.../232886674254?

I wrapped a few turns of self-amalgamating tape around the thinner 7pin cable to ensure the gland still has a watertight seal.
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While you are on with the electrics, these are good and save having to test the fuse. These glow if they blow https://ebay.us/6NA2rX
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It's not the wiring I'm worried about, it's the bayonet filament bulbs and lightboard connections. I've yet to haul the lightboard out and not have a bulb out issue. LED is the future.
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It's not the wiring I'm worried about, it's the bayonet filament bulbs and lightboard connections. I've yet to haul the lightboard out and not have a bulb out issue. LED is the future.


Yup, sealed LED is the way to go.
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Disagree. I have gone back to old school as to many led bulbs kept blowing. On one journey up west I finished with two working.
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Disagree. I have gone back to old school as to many led bulbs kept blowing. On one journey up west I finished with two working.


There’s LEDs & LEDs Billy. My trailer came with them built in. 3 seasons on & still going strong. They’ve probably done about 15k miles, been submerged at every launch & recovery, & are maintenance free. Conventional trailer boards were a constant battle to the point I considered them as being disposable.
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Maybe this is of interest too? How anyone can bear flakey 7pin electrics is beyond me so the first job on my new (used) trailer was to convert to 13pin and I can't get over the quality of this plug with gold plated pins for just £4 (inc delivery) from a UK seller.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/13-Pin-To.../232886674254?

I wrapped a few turns of self-amalgamating tape around the thinner 7pin cable to ensure the gland still has a watertight seal.


Have a look at his eBay business information and you will see he is not actually a UK seller
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There’s LEDs & LEDs Billy. My trailer came with them built in. 3 seasons on & still going strong. They’ve probably done about 15k miles, been submerged at every launch & recovery, & are maintenance free. Conventional trailer boards were a constant battle to the point I considered them as being disposable.


Great that’s what I would have expected. Mine also came as new built trailer but alas did not perform like yours over two years. As I don’t trailer as much as your self I went back to the dark side!!
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I'm in middle of fitting submersible led lights now, spent hours making sure the "ip68" lights are actually waterproof along with all connections.

I won't be doing this again, too much time/hassle and I must be damn close to 350 quid now, I'm not done either. the clusters alone are nearly 100 quid plus the rubber side markers (yet to come across a decent set, got 3 sets here), licence plate lights, curly cable, normal cable, junction box, new trailer poles (need galvanized)

Led lights on a trailer board is probably best compromise.
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That's where I ended up, touch wood, it's worked well if not perfectly for the last 3-4 years. Still have a touch of envy though when I see the lack of hassle with led submersible. It's a pain when it's pouring down putting it on and taking it off.
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That's where I ended up, touch wood, it's worked well if not perfectly for the last 3-4 years. Still have a touch of envy though when I see the lack of hassle with led submersible. It's a pain when it's pouring down putting it on and taking it off.
In the grand scheme It's just another small part of the Boating experience Mate..
Compared with all of the rest of the moving Kit-Clothing-Food-Drink-Fuel cans ect AND Crew!..you have to decant on and off Board ("Flaffing" I think you call it!)..its of little consequence.

For me anyway it's a minor thing and outweighs the trouble expence and hassle of fitting them in the first place..(and repair)when the in-situe stuff goes wrong...as they HAVE for me in the past when I had them fitted them when they first came out...
Plenty of places/service stations ect stock Trailer boards AND spares...if you're a long way from home ..not very many stock the extra long leads and extensions we need on our RIBs..which if you're a long way from home can be a pain.

I do believe the units are a lot better now...( so are the LED lighting boards) but I'd rather put up with the little time it takes ...and know I have the ease of repair/replacement ....and stick the money in the Tank
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[emoji1][emoji106] im not changing but I wouldn’t go back to bayonet light boards the led ones are leagues better
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In the grand scheme It's just another small part of the Boating experience Mate..
Compared with all of the rest of the moving Kit-Clothing-Food-Drink-Fuel cans ect AND Crew!..you have to decant on and off Board ("Flaffing" I think you call it!)..its of little consequence.

For me anyway it's a minor thing and outweighs the trouble expence and hassle of fitting them in the first place..(and repair)when the in-situe stuff goes wrong...as they HAVE for me in the past when I had them fitted them when they first came out...
Plenty of places/service stations ect stock Trailer boards AND spares...if you're a long way from home ..not very many stock the extra long leads and extensions we need on our RIBs..which if you're a long way from home can be a pain.

I do believe the units are a lot better now...( so are the LED lighting boards) but I'd rather put up with the little time it takes ...and know I have the ease of repair/replacement ....and stick the money in the Tank


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The problem is the new trailer regs. I’m not sure of the details, but over a certain length (which seems to cover most RIB Trailers) they have to have side marker lamps along the length. This complicates things somewhat. That’s why we are seeing fixed lights rather than trailer boards.
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I have had fixed LED lighting to replace tat trailer boards for nearly 10 years and no real issues.

My new SBS trailer in 2014 came fitted with waterproof led side amber and white front outline markers and surprisingly no issues with regular dunking. I added rear lighting from my old trailer and an extra side marker on the wheel arches ( Nice to be seen crossing busy roads )

LED's are 'LED Autolamps' and I recently replaced the original submersible filament set found ex Oz :-) Solves the Canbus problem with my XC70
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The problem is the new trailer regs. I’m not sure of the details, but over a certain length (which seems to cover most RIB Trailers) they have to have side marker lamps along the length. This complicates things somewhat. That’s why we are seeing fixed lights rather than trailer boards.
Hopefully Poly will be along to enlighten us about the "new Regs"!...and what they mean for us!

The Canbus problem when wiring stuff into the complicated diagnostics and "Brains"on a lot modern cars is also a reason I like to keep it as simple as poss ...
...I tend do to change vehicles a fair bit
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There’s LEDs & LEDs Billy. My trailer came with them built in. 3 seasons on & still going strong. They’ve probably done about 15k miles, been submerged at every launch & recovery, & are maintenance free. Conventional trailer boards were a constant battle to the point I considered them as being disposable.
Mine have been fine as well ya gets what ya pay for and I put a 13 pin socket on the trailer so I’ve no cable to mess with
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The problem is the new trailer regs. I’m not sure of the details, but over a certain length (which seems to cover most RIB Trailers) they have to have side marker lamps along the length. This complicates things somewhat. That’s why we are seeing fixed lights rather than trailer boards.


Are these EU regs or UK, or both? The integrated side light on mine have packed up. I don’t really trailer much but I have a bunch of work to do in the off season so I’ll probably have to look at this.

Also: the light board holder on my trailer is extendable so that the board is to the rear of the engine. Is this also a regulation? If so how do you guys with fixed LEDs get around this?
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Afaik it’s the EU directive that came out in 2012 or thereabouts.
Re. Fixed LEDs, mine are still on extendable arms but have coiled cables that extend/retract as necessary.
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