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Old 30 October 2008, 11:07   #11
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"recommended" is the key word!!!

An articulated lorry would be in serious trouble if it could only tow 85% of the tractor unit's weight!!!

A landrover can tow 3500kgs legally - a 90 weighs 1880 kgs - it's gross weight is 2550kgs - going by the 85% rule that is only 1500kgs!!!
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Old 30 October 2008, 11:16   #12
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http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehi...ntsfortrailers

..and of interest for those who tow with "commercial" vehicles and aren't aware..this one too...

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety...vanspeedlimits

..and those who tow boats in connection with any employment/trade..

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/freight/ro...hoursgoods.pdf
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http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehi...ntsfortrailers

..and of interest for those who tow with "commercial" vehicles and aren't aware..this one too...

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety...vanspeedlimits

..and those who tow boats in connection with any employment/trade..

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/freight/ro...hoursgoods.pdf
Does that change if you have air brakes on the trailer?

The Nissan in the link has a 2600 kg towing limit normally but they are quoting a 3000kg payload or is it just down to the fithwheel towing
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http://www.easier.com/view/News/Moto...cle-50263.html
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Does that change if you have air brakes on the trailer?

The Nissan in the link has a 2600 kg towing limit normally but they are quoting a 3000kg payload or is it just down to the fithwheel towing
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http://www.easier.com/view/News/Moto...cle-50263.html
Over run brakes are permitted ONLY up to 3,500KG after that the system must be directly coupled.

Don't have any knowledge of Nissan, but my Defender LR is 3,500 with over run and 4,000 with coupled brakes.
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van speed limits

So if I have read it correctly your links show that my Hiace van has a lower national speed limit!!. (not even looking at towing speeds) Ahh
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So if I have read it correctly your links show that my Hiace van has a lower national speed limit!!. (not even looking at towing speeds) Ahh
for single and dual carriageways..not on motorways.
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I vaguely remembering hearing about this before for vans but didn't believe it.

"Whilst a car may travel at up to 60 mph on single carriageways and 70 mph on dual carriageways vans are only allowed to travel up to 50 mph on single carriageway roads and 60 mph on dual carriageway roads."

Does anyopne know if anyone has been booked for this stupid rule? What about speed cameras - do they flash at a different speed for vans and cars? I doubt it somehow.

I have NEVER heard of a van stopped for speeding - nor driven one - that has been because of this law.
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for single and dual carriageways..not on motorways.
It doesn't actually say that in the link provided does it?
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Yep. My brother-in-law was stopped many years ago in his Morris van under this rule.

If I remember correctly, he cut windows in the side panels and fitted rear seats after the incident in an attmept to get "Alf" (yes the van had a name!) re-classified as a car because he was so cheesed off.

Did you also know that you should not attach any item to the roof without using a roof rack or crossways roof bars? A work colleague of mine was prosecuted for carrying an unsafe load because he attached a ladder directly to the longitudinal roof bars on a vehicle.
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as i said in an earlier post you can only tow weight for weight with a braked trailer unless the towing vehicle is classified as a duel purporse one such as a landrover ,and not all 4x4 come intro this .with the van ruling i think the law was changed about 20 years ago as it was more to do with the road tax on private or commercial , was if the the body of van was car derived ,ie estate car with panels insted of windows,or a transit type van . and from what i remember trailers over 2 .5 tons have to have a pin coupling and not a ball one . on vehicle laws up to a few years ago you could drive certain hgv types on a normal car licence such as concrete pumps and telescopic platform trucks and even mobile cranes as they went heavy goods , ie were plant and dident carry goods ,
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