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Old 04 February 2014, 14:49   #21
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I've seen some big plant and cattle trailers + driven on a car licence

Can't be arsed to dig out my CPC files, but pretty sure that if you exceed 7500 gtw by any combo, you 're fresh out of car licence and also in tacho territory. :-)
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Old 04 February 2014, 15:05   #22
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Can't be arsed to dig out my CPC files, but pretty sure that if you exceed 7500 gvw by any combo, you 're fresh out of car license. ;-) and also in tacho territory. :-)
Tacho required for anything over 7500kg plated GTW.

On a pre 1997 car licence, you have 2 relevant entitlements:

1. B+E - Vehicle upto 3500kg GVW. No GTW limit (licences issued since 14th October 2012 limit the trailer weight to 3500kg).

2. C1E - Vehicle upto 7500kg GVW. 8250kg GTW limit.

I used to run a Iveco Daily with 5th wheel and air brakes. 3500kg GVW, 8700kg GTW and click be driven on a old B+E licence. The conversion was done by North East Truck & Van in Billingham. Pictures at Boat Transport South West - Boat Transportation across UK & Europe
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Old 04 February 2014, 15:17   #23
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Looking at air brakes for a new trailer project, I have no knowledge of how to put this lot on my truck, it's the compressor for my truck that has me stumped, anyone?
ORC in Stuttgart are the specialists to ask . They know the G class probably better than Mercedes does ..
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Old 04 February 2014, 16:03   #24
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Looking at air brakes for a new trailer project, I have no knowledge of how to put this lot on my truck, it's the compressor for my truck that has me stumped, anyone?
I have used this make for odd applications.

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Old 04 February 2014, 16:23   #25
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Tacho required for anything over 7500kg plated GTW.

On a pre 1997 car licence, you have 2 relevant entitlements:

1. B+E - Vehicle upto 3500kg GVW. No GTW limit (licences issued since 14th October 2012 limit the trailer weight to 3500kg).

2. C1E - Vehicle upto 7500kg GVW. 8250kg GTW limit.

I used to run a Iveco Daily with 5th wheel and air brakes. 3500kg GVW, 8700kg GTW and click be driven on a old B+E licence. The conversion was done by North East Truck & Van in Billingham. Pictures at Boat Transport South West - Boat Transportation across UK & Europe
Ask the fifth wheelers it appears to be a different rule for them+ not for hire or reward.

A lot of the navara guys have fifth wheel tin tents I'll ask over there
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Looking at air brakes for a new trailer project, I have no knowledge of how to put this lot on my truck, it's the compressor for my truck that has me stumped, anyone?
How about a compressor and tank off a land rover with air suspension it's a decent size tank and you could fit it with a viair compressor I have seen one set up to run air tools
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Old 04 February 2014, 17:47   #27
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A lot of councils run 4ton tow weight Landrovers, they normally use air brakes.

You can usually find them on ebay etc
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Ask the fifth wheelers it appears to be a different rule for them+ not for hire or reward.
This was what I was saying earlier .. but tbh .. I still couldn't be certain from some of the posts I did a quick look up on about them.

In the end, that's only half the battle though.. then you've to convince the VOSA hauf wit and the cops .. at the road side, and that is no easy job
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Back in the 90's, when I was young and stupid I bought a 28ft sportscruiser and put it on triple axel trailer. At the time the Land rover Discovery V8 handbook said it could tow 5T (I didnt bother reading any of the important stuff about how it could tow that weight - air brakes etc ), so I loaded up the rig and set off with my new toys. The whole rig weighed between 4.5 and 5T depending on kit.

Getting it going wasnt a problem, the chipped V8 had plenty of grunt but anything over 40mph was brown trouser time and going down hill was heart attack time. Stopping it (even with upgraded brakes) was a lottery, on several occasions the whole car would simply slide along like a curling stone and that was in the dry. Slipways were the scariest, the moment the weight of the boat went over the lip, the whole rig started sliding.

I learnt my lessons during that 1st season and bought a smaller boat during the winter. I love Land Rovers and still tow 3.5T with a Range Rover but IMHO regardless of whether its legal I wouldnt want to tow anything over3.5 - 4T with a Land Rover again. Have you looked at Mini Artics ?

If you are still looking for a compressor check out some of the 4x4 off road suppliers, they use on board compressors and tanks for locking diffs.
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How about a compressor and tank off a land rover with air suspension it's a decent size tank and you could fit it with a viair compressor I have seen one set up to run air tools

I'll have to have a look at how it all works on the trailer and motor, just got the third axle for my 35 ft trailer and the 10.5 metre rib hull will have to come off soon so I can play
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