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Old 19 September 2011, 03:26   #31
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I have a 2.5XT Forester. From new, in 6 years and 100 000 miles, it's never missed a beat. Now with LPG conversion, I plan on keeping it til it stops.
That is what I was hoping to hear as I have also had good reports from elsewhere. Can I ask how you have found servicing / running costs as I have asked the dealer I was going to get a test drive with for a service cost menu but he hasnít come up with anything yet. Also do you have problems finding the LPG? Like you I am happy to keep cars Ďtill they drop and have 220k on the clock but am sorry to say I donít think it will last much longer.

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Old 19 September 2011, 03:47   #32
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A word for Skoda!

I have an Octavia 4x4, which is very similar to a scout. It has a massive boot, sticks like glue and gives 60+mpg on motorways! I would have bought the scout had I had another couple of grand to spare. I've been very happy with the car, and the skoda service as a whole.

However, they are like hen's teeth! You'll need to get on a waiting list at a dealer if you want a new one - there are a few demos about.
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Old 19 September 2011, 13:50   #33
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You certainly won't get 60+MPG from a Forester, but you do get a real driver's car, it's an impreza on steroids, basically. Pulls 2 tons no bother, and my turbo manages 0-60 in 7 seconds if that is important. Servicing costs are reasonable, a basic service is very easy, £100 every 10k. Cam belts for a 230BHP 4 cam engine are a bit of a price, but that's every 60K. I've had it done once, it cost about £400IIRC. Most parts are available as pattern, including stuff like brake discs. A set of 4 discs and pads recently cost me £120 for the parts. I daresay the 2 litre, or the turbodiesel are more economical, but I am also certain they are not as much fun. It leaves Focus STi's sitting in a cloud of their own tyre smoke.
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Old 21 September 2011, 07:02   #34
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Thanks again for all the suggestions
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I think that you need to decide what it is you want. At the moment you seem to be casting around at different types of vehicles; 4 wheel drive saloon based vehicles or 'proper' 4x4s.
I agree I seem to be looking at different types of vehicles. The all wheel estate with slightly raised suspension would do the job fine but I suspect the Audi / Volvo options are too pricey on the initial outlay and also running cost. That is why I was thinking the Scout is the best of that type but as mentioned they are like hens teeth. I am still looking. An Octavia estate 4x4 without the Scouts raised suspension may have to be a compromise.

We have looked at the Crossovers but as yet have not found one that we think is right for us. I am a bit worried that they are more style than anything else but I may well be wrong. Can anybody rush to their defence?

So we then moved onto the Xtrail / Forester type which I think fall into the softroader bracket. Not much more expensive than the Scout but more expensive to run especially on fuel.

We liked the X Trail but am concerned about this Renault engine issue. The new ones have a 2.0 diesel where as the previous engine was a 2.2. From what I have read the 2.2 was the one that gave problems but I may well be wrong so can anybody but me straight on this? Also not being from an engineering background 173 hp from a 2.0l diesel doesnít sound to me like an engine that will do 200k but I guess time will tell. This clever auto 4wheel dive system with a selector on the dash; has that ever caused problems?

We also liked the Forester but with the diesel we were surprised that it seemed to lack grunt. I know it has less Geegees than the XTrail and it seemed very noticeably slower. Perhaps I should go back and try it again. What I did like was the permanent all wheel drive as although it is going to increase running costs it struck me as less to go wrong. Subaru seem to have a reputation for reliable engineering.

We also looked at a Santa Fe but I did not realise that the all wheel drive only works up to 29mph but perhaps I misunderstood that. It seemed like a great tow car but I think with this we are just getting too far away from what we really need.

Thanks again for everybodyís input

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Not sure if mines a crossover but we moved from a Freelander 2 (fantastic car) to an XC60 still good but not the character of the Freelander 2 but really happy with it and it goes round corners which was something the Freelander never did very well.
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Old 03 October 2011, 04:21   #36
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Nissan wouldn't touch, freeloaders go bang, have a look at a vw touareg its a tool believe me! Subaru good, vw & Audi good. Been involved with 4x4s for years and driven most of them out there. The towrag is such a nice motor.

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Old 03 October 2011, 12:49   #37
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Thanks for all the input
Toerag is just too big and expensive so not even thinking about it
We struck the Xtrail off the list due to so many tales of problems with this 2L diesel which left the Subaru and the Skoda. We have found a Skoda Scout and think this is what we will settle on.

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No worries sorry to the late great Mr McCray. Must warn you though Subaru owners clubs are more fun than Skodas. Everyone Vw owned or not still have to battle the label wall. Just don't leave the keys on the pub table.

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