Thanks again for all the suggestions
Originally Posted by Ian M
I think that you need to decide what it is you want. At the moment you seem to be casting around at different types of vehicles; 4 wheel drive saloon based vehicles or 'proper' 4x4s.
I agree I seem to be looking at different types of vehicles. The all wheel estate with slightly raised suspension would do the job fine but I suspect the Audi / Volvo options are too pricey on the initial outlay and also running cost. That is why I was thinking the Scout is the best of that type but as mentioned they are like hens teeth. I am still looking. An Octavia estate 4x4 without the Scouts raised suspension may have to be a compromise.
We have looked at the Crossovers but as yet have not found one that we think is right for us. I am a bit worried that they are more style than anything else but I may well be wrong. Can anybody rush to their defence?
So we then moved onto the Xtrail / Forester type which I think fall into the softroader bracket. Not much more expensive than the Scout but more expensive to run especially on fuel.
We liked the X Trail but am concerned about this Renault engine issue. The new ones have a 2.0 diesel where as the previous engine was a 2.2. From what I have read the 2.2 was the one that gave problems but I may well be wrong so can anybody but me straight on this? Also not being from an engineering background 173 hp from a 2.0l diesel doesn’t sound to me like an engine that will do 200k but I guess time will tell. This clever auto 4wheel dive system with a selector on the dash; has that ever caused problems?
We also liked the Forester but with the diesel we were surprised that it seemed to lack grunt. I know it has less Geegees than the XTrail and it seemed very noticeably slower. Perhaps I should go back and try it again. What I did like was the permanent all wheel drive as although it is going to increase running costs it struck me as less to go wrong. Subaru seem to have a reputation for reliable engineering.
We also looked at a Santa Fe but I did not realise that the all wheel drive only works up to 29mph but perhaps I misunderstood that. It seemed like a great tow car but I think with this we are just getting too far away from what we really need.
Thanks again for everybody’s input