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Old 17 March 2015, 13:51   #1
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Tow car?

What do we think of this? Good value or a potential money pit?

I'm thinking of a career change so I may be able to buy something which doesn't need to do company mileage.
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Old 17 March 2015, 14:23   #2
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Great cars, especially if you don't mind working on it, tow whatever you got But get the wrong one and is a potential money pit, check for rust everywhere, oil burning and turbo wear along with all of your general stuff, the 300tdi is generally a good motor, in my mind this is a tad overpriced for 4k you could be sitting in a td5 with a few more miles on! but I'm sure someone will be along to prove me wrong momentarily! I gave up with landies and got a hilux and I love it.
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That's strong money...........with the discoverys you've got to check for rust in the rear, once established is can write the motor off ( cost of repair outways value etc ) - check rear body mounts, rear arches, pull the boot carpet up and check the floor and of course the sills. I have the misfortune of working on them every day lol otherwise robust , reliable motors and cheap parts
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Old 31 March 2015, 20:51   #5
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If no rust excellent machine. I've just swapped my defender for a later one.
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Not for me not to sure about there reputation
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Old 31 March 2015, 23:02   #7
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Probably blasphemy but this looks like good value to me... http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...01503161779580
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TOYOTA HILUX 3.O D4D INVINCIBLE 57 REG | eBay
What about this! Only just run in at 220'000 miles!
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Probably blasphemy but this looks like good value to me... Mitsubishi Shogun Sport 2.5 TD Warrior 5dr
as you know dan i have a mitso shogan auto and love it its the second one i have had it will pull a house down,reliable,comfortable fuel consumption wise 500 miles to a tank & 350 miles towing to the tank my mate has the same as your looking at and happy with it.
good luck your new boat looks brill by the way

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Cheers Jeff. I'll admit I'm pretty excited. Only 10 days to go.

The 'proper' Shogun was one of the things I started looking at but they all seem to be autos which seems risky to me on something leggy (>70k) Dunno what your experience is?
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Just passed hill side garage Brighouse they got a nice looking D2 in and by all accounts there not a bad garage
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Cheers Jeff. I'll admit I'm pretty excited. Only 10 days to go.

The 'proper' Shogun was one of the things I started looking at but they all seem to be autos which seems risky to me on something leggy (>70k) Dunno what your experience is?
bet your excited post a vid when you have been out.

regards the shogan in my mind the autos the way to go really handy on green slipways, stick her in low 4 wheel total control, mine will sit on tick over on a steep slip no probs slight touch on the gas and away she goes i launch over the beach at easedale on the slate without any probs done 100k now just changed the discs,bridge-stone tyers last 55k, the good thing as well is the cruse control when towing especially on long trips up Scotland.
another point is secondhand value is low so when buying secondhand your getting a lot for your money in terms of tow vehicle with you getting the new boat your going to need something for a while hope you find what you want
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Had loads of Tow vehicles over the years....
If it's Value for Money/Bang for Buck!??
I took back a Nissan Terrano LWB a while back and kept it ....Tidy old Bus 120k FSH Cheap as chips.! .2.7 pulls as well as the Shogun I had...great on fuel and scrap yard for spares!
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That Challenger/Shogun L200 thingy I had advertised for a mate is still up for sale IIRC if you want a cheapy.

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Old 04 April 2015, 01:10   #15
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In a quandry...

Well, after waving Clamchowder off today, I went to have a look at a Nissan Pathfinder. Not wearing it's miles well internally; a lot of wear around the dash and trim, and the passenger side window wouldn't close from the driver's side switch. I suppose it's possible that the 54k they were claiming wasn't genuine but if felt like a much older car.

I sat in a couple of poverty spec Disco 3s which were wearing it a bit better, albeit they were a bit more expensive. Dunno what the feeling is amongst the LR cognoscenti on here is, but the internet is full of grumbles about reliability etc. Timing belt needing changed at 7 years of 100k and costing loads.Bushes needing changed all the time.... But then the previous generation of discos don't seem to fair any better, which puts me off.

The Shogun i looked at were all pretty tired looking too except a short wheelbase one which is too small really for our needs.

Dunno what else to try... Taureg? HiLux?
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Did you go to hill side garage Brighouse I don't know the chap but I know the bloke that does his mot reckons he gets decent motors or hat about that D2 that's on here for sale
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Tow car?

I've had shoguns, rangers, fourtraks and land rovers, the present Toyota Invincible trumps them all.

Don't get me wrong, the LR was great off road but your not likely to be doing that kind of off roading with a boat in tow.

Shogun gave me a sore back and it also had nowhere to stick your left foot when you weren't using it for the clutch. A small thing I know but it was irritating.

The rangers were...........well....dull. Belt went at 54k, gearbox went at 70k and it liked brakes ALOT.

The Fourtrak was agricultural so say the least, 3.5t towing capacity was crazy.


My present pickup is an Invincible and its just passed 48k and the only bill I've had for it so far is a n/s brake caliper and pads last month, its still on its original pads. This truck gets some abuse and loves it.

It's got all the toys, the 3.0 which has more torque than you need, and is as comfy as a car to drive. I'd have another tomorrow.
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What's the new shape Ford Ranger like. I fancy the 3.2 auto
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I love my Hilux 3.0 invincible, shop around and you should get a good one in your budget albeit with a high mileage but don't let that put you off they can stand it!
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