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Old 01 June 2014, 07:12   #21
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Forget Range Rovers, Mercs, et al and concentrate on a COMMERCIAL vehicle such as a Defender or Discovery.

As it's for business use, you'll be able to claim ALL the VAT back on the purchase price and because it's a commercial vehicle you won't have to worry about company car tax either.

Add in the tachometer issue highlighted above and, to my mind, you'll be joining the Land Rover owner's club very soon.

You know it makes sense.
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Toyota Land Cruiser Amazon would be my weapon of choice. Large comfortable, surprisingly nippy for its size, reliable and will tow anything happily. £13k is not going to buy you much worth having of the modern vehicles. A Disco out of warranty is a liability, RRS is even more so.
+1 Its a no brainer a landcruiser amazon is the best you will get for your job comfy powerfull and ultra reliable
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Old 01 June 2014, 15:20   #23
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I think the Isuzu double cab can tow more than the other pickups. Not 100% sure though.
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Nearly all the farmers (who have been towing v-heavy like forever) around here use the Landcruiser commercial's 24-7,365.
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iv had a few big 4x4,s and the best by a country mile was a 3.0 v6 tdi vw touareg loads more torque than an ml 320 or range rover tdv6 and they do a v10 tdi that can be re mapped to over 1000nm torque if you need to tow any jumbo jets
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iv had a few big 4x4,s and the best by a country mile was a 3.0 v6 tdi vw touareg loads more torque than an ml 320 or range rover tdv6 and they do a v10 tdi that can be re mapped to over 1000nm torque if you need to tow any jumbo jets
Are you sure?

VW Toe-rag 3.0 tdi: 225bhp, 369 lb.ft torque at 1700rpm, 22.6 mpg average.

Merc ML320 3.0 tdi: 224bhp, 376 lb.ft torque at 1600rpm, 26 mpg average.
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I think the Isuzu double cab can tow more than the other pickups. Not 100% sure though.
The new Ford is rated to 3500 kg to
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The new Ford is rated to 3500 kg to
....and it comes in asbo orange. :-)
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Avoid the Navara like the Plague. Mine spent more time in the garage than on the road. I have had 3 x Discoveries now for commercial towing. Nearly 300,000 miles in total between them and not one breakdown. They are also compatible with a digital tachograph, which you will of course need to fit if you are towing with it commercially. DVSA (formerly VOSA) have been really cracking down on 4x4s towing commercially recently.
This has summed up everything I was going to say...

I had a Navara and it was rubbish, had loads of issues.

Now on a Disco 3 and its been brilliant!
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I had a 2009 Shogun, it certainly towed well however it drank fuel (19 mpg average). It had loads of kit on it, sat nav, bluetooth phone etc, it was however a big noisy brute as a day to day car.

Got rid of it recently, it had only done 70,000 miles but the doors were rusting and the gearbox was getting decidedly iffy.

I wouldn't get another, particularly after the fiasco of trying to get Mitsubishi to sort out the rusting doors.

Would get another Landcruiser anytime.
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Really? The salesman at the garage told me it wasn't

Ok 3495kg

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Would get another Landcruiser anytime.
Them Land Cruisers are the dogs danglies if I had the dosh I wouldn't hesitate to get one
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The latest Disco 4 8sp auto will return 32mpg. Earlier Disco 4 28mpg. Landtanks are old truck technology. 19/20mpg. :-/
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The latest Disco 4 8sp auto will return 32mpg. Earlier Disco 4 28mpg. Landtanks are old truck technology. 19/20mpg. :-/
Land Tanks are old straightforward technology that is easy to maintain, seldom need repairing. They are expensive secondhand, because people hang on to them , because they are so good, meaning difficult to find secondhand.
As for Disco 4s, I don't see how it is a step forward to design a vehicle that needs its body taken off to gain access for basic maintenance items such as diesel injectors or suspension bushes. It is great until it goes wrong then hits the wallet big time. As I said before a liability once out of warranty.
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Land Tanks are old straightforward technology that is easy to maintain, seldom need repairing. They are expensive secondhand, because people hang on to them , because they are so good, meaning difficult to find secondhand.
As for Disco 4s, I don't see how it is a step forward to design a vehicle that needs its body taken off to gain access for basic maintenance items such as diesel injectors or suspension bushes. It is great until it goes wrong then hits the wallet big time. As I said before a liability once out of warranty.

You are soooo right, why anyone would want improved technology, more comfort and better performance is beyond me

But taking your theory into account, surley the OP actually needs a Series 1 Landy, now that is simple, doesnt even have windows to go wrong
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Ok 3495kg

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Ha he must have taken me literally .... I explained I wanted 3.5t capacity.... He said it didn't have it.... But no mention of 3495... Funny!
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But taking your theory into account, surley the OP actually needs a Series 1 Landy, now that is simple, doesnt even have windows to go wrong
No windows?
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