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Old 02 February 2016, 19:19   #1
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SBS - who makes their Axles?

Need a new braked axle for my SBS roller trailer - it's an R2 / 1800EL braked roller as per the link below.

R2/1800EL (BRAKED)

I could get one from SBS but they want a fortune!

A few months ago I fitted new bearings / wheels / tyres / brake cables / hitch etc - the axle is all good apart from the brake mechanism and trailer tows like a dream. Challenge is we're towing to the Alps in August so we need 100% perfect brakes hence the swap. (If anyone wants the old axles its perfect apart from breaks) - ideal for a local or yard trailer.

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Old 02 February 2016, 19:27   #2
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Jim,

the axle for the 1800 is the most expensive one you can buy as it is the highest loading one you can buy.

i don't know if this is an option but extreme sell a 1900kg single axle trailer with i assume the same axle as the sbs, worth a phone call to check dimensions perhaps.

why don't you just put new brakes on what you have?
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seconded re refurbishing axle

Brake refurb kits wont cost you more than 120, Bowden cables and one shot nuts another 50 any garage should get the work done in 90 mins

Alko Brake Cable S/S - Ball End 1020mm

Alko 2361 Brake Shoe Kit

Bearing 2361 Euro Hub



if you want a new axle however then




SBS axles are made by Alko Kober


Al-ko 1800kg braked single axle from Western Towing Bear in mind this may not have the waterproof bearings that sbs and extreme sell but check that out with Western Towing

1800KG Axle

I've known the owner of Extreme trailers for more than a decade I'm going to see him tomorrow I'll ask him what his best price is on a 1800 or 1900kg axle for you if you wish. Extreme also use Alko Kober axles.

I know I can get 15% off the SBS Price but it's still dear.

I'd be interested in buying your old axle from you as I have a similar SBS trailer and I'd like to put Twin Axles on mine.
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seconded re refurbishing axle

brake refurb kits wont cost you more than a 100 and new bearings and bowdens another 120 any garage should get the work done in 90 mins

Alko Brake Cable S/S - Ball End 1020mm

Alko 2361 Brake Shoe Kit

Bearing 2361 Euro Hub

you would also need a pair of one shot nuts to retain the hubs



if you want new however then




SBS axles are made by Alko Kober


Al-ko 1800kg braked single axle from Western Towing

1800KG Axle

I've known the owner of Extreme trailers for more than a decade I'm going to see him tomorrow I'll ask him what his best price is on a 1800 or 1900kg axle is if you wish.
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If you're going to swap out the axle every time the brakes need doing, it's going to be expensive boating. Changing brakes is an annual routine chore, should cost no more than £100 tops to diy. It's not difficult to do & there's plenty of info available. You only need basic tools & skills.
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As other have said - Alko-Kober axles and the later ones fitted by SBS have the 'waterproof' axles as opposed to the standard 'caravan' ones. Note the bearings and hubs are different; they are not the normal 2361 fitments (brakes and cables are though)
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Need a new braked axle for my SBS roller trailer - it's an R2 / 1800EL braked roller as per the link below.

R2/1800EL (BRAKED)

I could get one from SBS but they want a fortune!

A few months ago I fitted new bearings / wheels / tyres / brake cables / hitch etc - the axle is all good apart from the brake mechanism and trailer tows like a dream. Challenge is we're towing to the Alps in August so we need 100% perfect brakes hence the swap. (If anyone wants the old axles its perfect apart from breaks) - ideal for a local or yard trailer.

Cheers,

Jim
hi Jim,
I've got the same SBS trailer, I had a new axle built via local trailer specialist, worked out around 1/2 price of new axle from SBS, complete with brakes etc. only difference was I specified standard taper roller bearings rather than the sealed bearings, just personal preference
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That's interesting Chris, I'll bear that in mind.

Are taper roller bearings capable of carrying the same load as the originals though?

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hi Jim,
I've got the same SBS trailer, I had a new axle built via local trailer specialist, worked out around 1/2 price of new axle from SBS, complete with brakes etc. only difference was I specified standard taper roller bearings rather than the sealed bearings, just personal preference
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brake refurb kits wont cost you more than a 100 and new bearings and bowdens another 120 any garage should get the work done in 90 mins

Alko Brake Cable S/S - Ball End 1020mm

Alko 2361 Brake Shoe Kit

Bearing 2361 Euro Hub

you would also need a pair of one shot nuts to retain the hubs



if you want new however then




SBS axles are made by Alko Kober


Al-ko 1800kg braked single axle from Western Towing

1800KG Axle

I've known the owner of Extreme trailers for more than a decade I'm going to see him tomorrow I'll ask him what his best price is on a 1800 or 1900kg axle is if you wish.
Roger I've PM'd you, happy to sort out the sale of my axle if I get a new one?
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That's interesting Chris, I'll bear that in mind.

Are taper roller bearings capable of carrying the same load as the originals though?

Cheers

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don't think it makes any difference, as long as the right size bearings are specified, but I'm sure someone far brighter than me will know, certainly no sign of any problems following good runs on the motorway so all good so far
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I've known the owner of Extreme trailers for more than a decade I'm going to see him tomorrow I'll ask him what his best price is on a 1800 or 1900kg axle is if you wish.
Just done me a cracking deal on a new 1500kg trailer.......a star.
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SBS - who makes their Axles?

Try these guys they manufacture trailer parts & axles for all types of trailer quoted me £300 for my boat trailer complete with brake ready to fit they sell all trailer parts cheap as well, they are worth a call 👍http://www.meredithandeyre.co.uk/components/frontpage
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I am in a similar situation and planning to tow to Spain in the summer. I have a Meredith and Eyre axle on a Rapide trailer. I don't believe the axle is original. The issue I have is that the backing plate on the brake drum is heavily corroded. A new hitch was fitted last year and I also bought new wheels from M&E.

Quote last year from M&E was £350 plus vat for a new axle. Quote the other day from Mersea who now supply Rapide £350 to 450 plus vat depending on parts.

Does anyone know who manufactures the axles for Mersea's Rapide trailers?

I was also tempted to buy a new 1500kg single axle trailer and looking for the best breaking system etc Quotes I have had in recent weeks is as follows:-

SBS £2250
Rapide £2434+vat
Gecko aluminium £2154+vat
Freewheel boat trailer Netherlands €2400+vat for aluminium 1600kg
Freewheel boat trailer Netherlands €2000+vat for galvanised 1600kg
Lider Sun-way (French) €3850 +vat with disc brakes and oil filled hub
Vanclaes stainless steel frame, galvansied axle with disc brakes and oil filled hubs £5565 including vat

The SBS and Rapide have swing beam. The continentals don't seam to go for that system but use a pair of wheels at the rear to line the rib to the trailer.

I have come full circle and tempted to go for a new axle. But which one?

I could also do with someone teaching me how to change brakes and bearings just in case! I once had a trailer wheel come off a De Graaf unbraked trailer that was less than 12 months old due to bearings corroding. Not funny when the wheel overtakes you!!!!!!!!!!
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We've replaced several axles for customers (mainly because the stub axle has corroded and in some cases collapsed) and always bought them from the relevant trailer manufacturer, (paid the premium price!). But we came across TrailerTek - Trailer Parts and Spares a few years ago. Its a one stop shop for all things 'Trailer'. Amongst everything they sell they do a range of bespoke braked and unbraked axles, you just give them the spacing you require (explained on there site) and its made / galvanized / delivered within 4 weeks for approx. We paid approx £300 inc delivery for a 1500kg braked axle. Chris.
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