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Old 18 June 2015, 00:16   #31
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Old 18 June 2015, 02:43   #32
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Old 18 June 2015, 03:15   #33
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Is that attached to the tow vehicle or how it sits unattached? Do you have to stand on the trailer hitch to force it down onto the vehicle? Does it try and lift the vehicle once hitched?

BTW nice hull.... proper boat.
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Old 18 June 2015, 03:27   #34
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If it's the same Towbar I had on my Mercedes ML, you can't alter it, put a drop bar etc etc on it as there either Westfalia or Oris factory fit and are either detachable or the newer ones are electric folding.
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Old 18 June 2015, 05:05   #35
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If that is unhitched, what weight have you got at the hitch?

ETA. A bit of digging on the net produces this.
Understanding all about tow ball height… | Caravan Chronicles
If the car towball is at the correct legal height & the new trailer hitch height with the trailer level is outside the spec given for use with your vehicle then seems to me that the trailer doesn't comply with regs for use with your vehicle type - and is therefore not suitable for use with your car - & I would say that is an issue for the seller to address.
BUT the EU reg does mention offroad vehicles & it seems there may be an exemption for them in respect of hitch heights & that could explain the height of the hitch on this trailer. I.E suitable for use with 4x4s but not others.
Which would appear to be a Sale of Goods Act issue as not fit for purpose - you've told the seller what your towcar is & you've been sold an item that doesn't fit your tow car.

If they won't play then you may have to reach for a solicitor, but where you'd find one that understands this could be another matter!

CAVEAT. I could be talking utter tosh so best check!
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[QUOTE=paintman;682628]If the car towball is at the correct legal height & the new trailer hitch height with the trailer level is outside the spec given for use with your vehicle then seems to me that the trailer doesn't comply with regs & I would say that is an issue for the seller to address.
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Basically that is what the OP is claiming. BUT it's all about weight distribution & balance. The op seems to think that he can take a trailer straight from the factory, plonk his upside down boat on it & drive off into the sunset, without performing any adjustment or setting up. It ain't gonna happen Boat trailers can often take a frustratingly long time to get right, you can set them up roughly just to get you on the road, but they can take endless tweaking to get just so. As CJL stated early on in the thread, it's about expectations.
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Old 18 June 2015, 06:08   #37
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Mine's on a twin axle trailer, rides level & noseweight is correct.
I'm towing with a Classic Range Rover with Dixon Bate adjustable towball mount & centre of ball is 460mm above ground.
If the OP's trailer is level when unhitched, the jockey wheel is off the ground and with the correct noseweight showing at the hitch - which would suggest the loading is correct - & the hitch is outside the EU reg dimensions in the link then it's not suitable for use with the car for which it was sold.
Whilst I appreciate some fine tuning may be necessary TBH if I buy something brand new for a specific purpose & the seller is aware of all the parameters I don't expect to be messing about with it.
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This is why I asked for the drawbar height without the boat loaded !

SBS would not be manufacturing trailer heights outside the standard tow hitch heights ! As another ribnet member has the same trailer and confirms that his trailer height is within standard tow hitch height.

The whole set up looks totally wrong from the photo, not in the slightest road safe !! And it really seams that for the op to tow a huge un stable load with learning difficulties beggars belief

The op needs to send detailed photos into sbs and seek advice from them, please don't be a danger to yourself and other road users
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Old 18 June 2015, 06:16   #39
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Don't see the 'learning difficulties' as an issue as we have no idea of what or the severity. Dyslexia didn't seem to impair Richard Branson!

The other pics show the trailer behind a 4X4 & if you read the link, the reg says the heights do not apply to off-road vehicles.

As you say though, the whole thing looks completely wrong. I do wonder what SBS were told & if they've seen the result?
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Just measured my ML swan neck type tow ball with half a tank of fuel, 460mm to the top of the ball.
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