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Old 16 June 2015, 17:52   #21
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In his first post he states that the trailer is nose down & crushing the front tyres, he the goes on in his second post to state that the hitch needs to come down 5" to sit the trailer level & mate to his towbar, I don't see how both of these statements can be true unless the trailer is riding on humungous wheels/tyres ( Land Rover 750s?) photo?


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Old 17 June 2015, 08:04   #22
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Wouldn't this sort the problem

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I wish he would just post some pictures so we can all stop speculating what the issue is.
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Old 17 June 2015, 09:18   #24
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I wish he would just post some pictures so we can all stop speculating what the issue is.

I would be surprised if he did, it might lead to a true & correct answer to his problem, rather than the one he wanted😎 it's all gone strangely quiet from the OP.


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I scraped a pass on my VOSA test , the bloke said a trailer that fails on a car will often pass on a 4x4.

With the trailer level the centre of the coupling has to be 430mm +/- 35mm to meet the regs.

Section 50A Couplings. Page 114 of the manual.
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I scraped a pass on my VOSA test , the bloke said a trailer that fails on a car will often pass on a 4x4.

With the trailer level the centre of the coupling has to be 430mm +/- 35mm to meet the regs.

Section 50A Couplings. Page 114 of the manual.
Well the SBS trailers are at that height I've just measured, so it must be his car that's the problem then?

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Old 17 June 2015, 18:31   #27
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Photo as requested

Sorry been quite , not intentional . Just spent two days away on the River Orwell sailing. First holiday away for four years .
Hope the picture has come through.
I only have an Apple iPad and no computer .
I have spoken and emailed several Government Dept over this issue.
I have even wrote an email to my MP. Who forwarded it onto the relevant Minister who did reply but said in this instance he could not help.
I have even made an official complaint against one of them for not helping me properly.
The rules have been changed drastically since the EU interviened .
All vehicle tow bar are now supposed to be set at one height within close tolerances. There are variables set into the equation to allow for when the vehicle is loaded and unloaded.
These rules must be good for the consumer because then all trailer / caravan suppliers should make their goods fit that height tow bar.
i have been told by Vossa and the VCA you are not allowed to fit anything to the vehicles tow bar other than what's been designed for that vehicle. So drop plates cannot be fitted at all!
Or in my case it would need to be a drop plate inverted to an up plate.
Moving the axles along the main chassis rail which is level with the ground will not alter the hitch height at all no matter where you put the axles.
I did move the axles BECAUSE THE MANUFACTURER PUT THEM IN THE WRONG PLACE.
I had to move them forward 610 mm so that they were then in the exact place its type approval stated they should be in. Doing this helped me as the centre of balance on my boat is just about right at its middle and not at the rear like most R.I.Bs with heavy outboard engines on. My engine is a diesel inboard with the engine sat right in the middle of the boat ( that's front to back )
It's not confusing at all.
If the manufactures some of which already state on their websites that their trailers leave their factory set at the same height as all modern tow ball heights did the same thing there would be no need to have to use nothing but a Lamd rover with an adjustable tow bracket to tow different height trailer draw bars.
At the end of the day after spending 4000 on a new trailer I expect it to fit the vehicle I told them I was using.
I expect the trailer to have been altered a bit so it nearly fits my boat . South Cast boat Trailers specify that they are experts in supplying trailers for any boat .
In my case they failed miserably and will not help in any way shape or form. They will not even communicate . I am very disappointed with the company .
SBS have been very helpful.
Even though technically I am not directly their customer they are trying to help but have only come up with the idea of me paying extra to have the trailer altered so it will fit my vehicle.
I DO NOT AGREE THAT I should have to do that.
The trailer has a type approval given in this case by the VCA.
It states all of the relevant measurements when the manufacturer submitted a trailer for type approval . The following info is recoded for all trailers:- Hitch Height, in the case of a twin axles trailer , each axle measurement from the tow ball, the overall length , width, Tyre and wheel sizes ( the manufactures can put down a range as these can effect hitch height)
SBS did swop tyres and wheels to the other size mentioned on my trailers type approval to lower it by one inch. This is still no where near enough and the draw bar is still way too high.
If the photo is not attached and anyone would like one please send me PM with an email address and I will send a few straight away.
Thank you for trying to help but the rules have changed dramatically ove the last couple of years .
This is a serious issue that I can see many people falling foul of unwittingly breaking the law.
Although boat trailers have been in the past and are still made fully adjustable beware of doing so . Again I have been told yes you can do so but would need to offer it for reclassification to alter its type approval.
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The chassis' got to fit the boat, moving the load or the axle will only affect the nose/axle weight.

The trailer manufacturer is constrained by the construction and use regs, they can't produce a trailer that doesn't meet the 430mm ish coupling height.

Which begs the question why car/towbar manufacturers don't make their stuff to conform.

Dunno if it helps but a 2005 Iveco Daily van half full of welding gear gives a coupling height of just over 450mm
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You say the trailer is 127mm (5 inch) too high.

430mm legal height + 127 mm = 557mm is this correct ?

Without the boat on the trailer is the height still 557mm ?
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