SBS sealed bearings

[nauti nic]

Just changed the ones on my SBS 1800kg they've been in for just over 2 years so phoned up sbs for replacments,they didnt know what bearing I had fitted you'd think they would be able to tell you straight away what bearings they fitting to there trailers.So I had to remove the drum and press out the bearing measure it then phone them back up £56 + vat and postage per bearing a bit expensive I thought so I did a Google search with the measurements/part numbers that was on the bearing and found its a front bearing from a ford maverick or a Mazda tribute £26 inc vat so ordered 3 total £80 posted from Henderson bearings big saving

[Pikey Dave]

You'll probably find that your cheap bearings aren't waterproof & will fail quickly( been there done that). What condition are the old ones in? Did they need changing?
Iirc I paid about £25 quid each for proper AlKo waterproof ones from SBS

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[jambo]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

You'll probably find that your cheap bearings aren't waterproof & will fail quickly( been there done that). What condition are the old ones in? Did they need changing?
Iirc I paid about £25 quid each for proper AlKo waterproof ones from SBS

.....sh1t happens.......

True saying Dave especially in the boating world buy cheap pay twice

[Boats&Outboards]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

You'll probably find that your cheap bearings aren't waterproof & will fail quickly( been there done that). What condition are the old ones in? Did they need changing?
Iirc I paid about £25 quid each for proper AlKo waterproof ones from SBS

.....sh1t happens.......

The bearings come with separate seals, so I'd imagine without that even the Alko ones will not be waterproof :-)

We stick with genuine, i can see why people don't though

[The Black Pig]

Originally Posted by nauti nic

Just changed the ones on my SBS 1800kg they've been in for just over 2 years so phoned up sbs for replacments,they didnt know what bearing I had fitted you'd think they would be able to tell you straight away what bearings they fitting to there trailers.So I had to remove the drum and press out the bearing measure it then phone them back up £56 + vat and postage per bearing a bit expensive I thought so I did a Google search with the measurements/part numbers that was on the bearing and found its a front bearing from a ford maverick or a Mazda tribute £26 inc vat so ordered 3 total £80 posted from Henderson bearings big saving

The same thing happened to me

Apparantly they can use different axels on trailers with different bearings ect, why I don't know, cost I presume at the time maybe

So you have to go through the procedure of finding the bearing and reading the punched in number if it is readable, then there is the down time delay in getting the job done.

Next time I will replace the complete hub with the bearings fitted

You live and learn but now at least I have all the numbers

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

The bearings come with separate seals, so I'd imagine without that even the Alko ones will not be waterproof :-)

We stick with genuine, i can see why people don't though

Peter, maybe we are talking about different bearings. The AlKo waterproof is a complete sealed unit with integral seals, not separate seals. Whenever I've needed ( genuine) spares I've just phoned SBS & told them
Which model & year the trailer is & been supplied with the correct parts. I've never had to measure them up.


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[Jeff]

If they are the genuine skf ,(as fitted by Alko ), a good saving. If not, and pattern ones with rubber 'seals', then as Dave says ,,,, be prepared for early failure

[Jeff]

Ah ,,,, rubber dust shields. Been there with previous avonride bearing replacements. Be prepared to change them annually - depending on how far to travel and how often you dunk them in the briny. See my post on Bog Monsters 'how much bearing play is too much ' thread

Search results for: 'SKF BAH-0069'

[nauti nic]

The bearing I removed seemed fine maybe a little play but coming up on 2 1/2 years thought it was time to change.The bearing I got PFI Bearings Florida USA part number pw42780045cs with metal seal not plastic I don't mind paying top money for specific trailer bearings made for salt water environment but SKF ones are automotive bearings I just hate being ripped off by trailer companies.

[jeffstevens763@g]

Had an sbs trailer bearing failed and wiped out brake shoes phoned sbs up for parts they were very helpful suggested I bought a new axel with waterproof bearings worked out £30 more for brand new upgrade

[RIK]

Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

Had an sbs trailer bearing failed and wiped out brake shoes phoned sbs up for parts they were very helpful suggested I bought a new axel with waterproof bearings worked out £30 more for brand new upgrade

If you go as far as changing the axle I would fit one with tapererd bearings and fit bearing savers
I have alko water proof bearings and I am lucky if I get one season out of them

[Johnscubanut]

I think I would have contacted Trailerguy on here for his advice. Supplied me with bearings & brake shoes at a good price!

[cantona]

Just for your info, SKF, NSK and TIMKEN are three of the best bearing manufacturers in the world, if you can get the bearing number off the ones fitted to your trailers then give your local ERIKS branch a call they can always get what you need, plenty of free advise if you ask nicely, now is the time of year when most trailer bearings get changed ready for the new season.
cantona

[BogMonster]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Peter, maybe we are talking about different bearings. The AlKo waterproof is a complete sealed unit with integral seals, not separate seals. Whenever I've needed ( genuine) spares I've just phoned SBS & told them
Which model & year the trailer is & been supplied with the correct parts. I've never had to measure them up.


.....sh1t happens.......

Better luck than me then - as on my other thread, the new bearings supplied as spares when I bought the trailer with the boat, all new and shipped together, are the wrong ones - good job I wasn't relying on those. Both width and outer diameter are a couple of mm different to the Alko waterproof ones originally fitted in the drums. Moral of the story is check it yourself before you need it! I must track down the right ones to get a spare set on hand.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by BogMonster

Better luck than me then - as on my other thread, the new bearings supplied as spares when I bought the trailer with the boat, all new and shipped together, are the wrong ones - good job I wasn't relying on those. Both width and outer diameter are a couple of mm different to the Alko waterproof ones originally fitted in the drums. Moral of the story is check it yourself before you need it! I must track down the right ones to get a spare set on hand.

The Alko waterproof hubs fitted by SBS are different to the normal Alko 2361'Caravan' hubs and for some reason the bearings are classed as an 'American' bearings ?
From your post, you now have the original 'W' designated waterproof hubs and the spare pair now fitted are standard hubs - so you will need both types of bearings for replacement. The latter are easy to find with the BAH-0069's a bit more difficult (for me anyway)

As well as searching for the SKF BAH-0069, use this (SKF) FW186 which is the same SKF bearing but packaged/marketed specifically as wheel bearing (Front )

RockAuto Parts Catalog or E Bay
SKF FW186 | eBay

Probably US is just as easy for you down there !!

Hope this helps

Jeff

[brianrowlands]

The skf one's that you buy will be identical to the "waterproof" ones. As someone with 100's of thousands of miles on the clock from towing boats...i have yet to see how a bearing will ever be properly waterproof if it goes round and round ! The sealed for life bearing will normally last a couple of years and a simple check is to jack the wheel off the ground and spin it...ANY rumbling or vibration and change it ! any thing other than a tiny bit of play...change it ! This applies to sealed for life bearings only. Roller bearing are crap on boat trailers and generally dont put them in the water ....or change the axle for sealed for life bearings.

[brianrowlands]

Bogmonster ,PM me and I will let you know the place to get them cheap

[camelgas]

Just knock the old ones out and go to your local specialist bearing factor !, buy new ones like for like, much cheaper than a trailer main dealer/maker.
It really is that easy.