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Old 14 January 2014, 16:13   #31
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your lucky plod did not stop for a chat I doubt that a 5 meter rib, engine and un-braked trailer are within the towing limits of the car...
Well within, I think the Alhambra is good for at least 1800 or 2000kg towing, excellent tow vehicle, I bet your set up is around the 1000kg weight so I don't think any issues.
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except its unbraked and on your figures a tonne perhaps!
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Old 14 January 2014, 16:45   #33
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your lucky plod did not stop for a chat I doubt that a 5 meter rib, engine and un-braked trailer are within the towing limits of the car...
Give him a break....he's had a crap day already.

I very very much doubt it needs to be braked.
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Old 14 January 2014, 16:55   #34
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your lucky plod did not stop for a chat I doubt that a 5 meter rib, engine and un-braked trailer are within the towing limits of the car...
Zodiac Pro 9-man dry weight is 230kg or there about not including console, seating, A-frame or fuel, say another 50kg, Honda 50hp (2005) in region of 92kg, plus trailer, say another 200kg tops.

Unbraked trailer 750kg well within limit for Alhambra.

Don't see the police having any interest in this from a weight or length point of view, other than the condition of the trailer which we all agree is atrocious.
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Old 14 January 2014, 17:01   #35
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Give him a break....he's had a crap day already.

I very very much doubt it needs to be braked.
+1 tomorrow is another day, time to ponder rebuilding existing hubs, bearings etc or a complete new axle, tonight is the time to be grateful it didn't turn out much worse, and a lesson for everyone else
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Old 14 January 2014, 17:10   #36
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except its unbraked and on your figures a tonne perhaps!
Sorry I meant 750kg, basically this set up is well within the law

At least he will be home safely now
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Old 14 January 2014, 17:47   #37
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After this experience I think I'm luckier than I deserve. Unfortunately I took this guys word for it when he told me that he'd done the bearings, although in all honesty I wouldn't have known the difference. I'm just thankful that nothing worse happened. I know ignorance isn't a good enough excuse so I'll definitely be looking to learn more about the general maintenance of the boat and trailer.

Now that the boat's at work, one thing that's immediately obvious is that the trailer for the Zodiac is much narrower than the Humbers trailer. The Humber trailer goes almost to the outer edge of the tubes whereas the Zodiacs trailer goes, from memory, only to the inner edge of the tubes.

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks again for all the helpful tips and pointers and offers of help, it really is appreciated. :-)

I can't wait to get them both out on the Menai Straits. :-)
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A little unfair in my opinion.

The axle is completely shot. This isn't simply a set of worn bearings that can be replaced or repacked with grease. That trailer axle looks like it's been neglected for years. The stub axle needs to be clean prior to installing new bearings. It has more than surface rust, it probably has structural corrosion. Imagine the OP had hit a pothole... the wheel would be overtaking him!

The castle nut will probably damage the thread when it's undone, not to mention the thrust washers are goosed. Right call in my opinion from AA - that way the OP can get home safely, courtesy of low-loader.
I was agreeing with shineyshoe & wasnt implying a pemanent fix & agree the stub is probably goosed but with a little ingenuity & some basic hand tools a temprary repair could have been made to get him the final 80 miles home at a reduced speed at a saving of around 250

he had already done 3hours say 150 miles? so structural strength of assembly reasonably proven especially the hammering it would be getting with a failed bearing

wasnt being critical of the op but aa men are not always the best people to advise its not their money is it? much easier & less dirt on their hands to call a truck out
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I'm just lucky I decided to stop after 3 hours of driving, I had planned to drive straight through and if I had the boat, and possibly the car would have been littered over the A1. It could have been worse and I'll certainly learn from the experience. As we tow to Spain each year I'll make sure our breakdown policy covers the trailer as well and not just the vehicle.
I'm not suggesting that the vendor is blameless (far from it) but a 5 hour drive non stop towing an unknown trailer isn't necessarily a smart move. I'd never tow a trailer for 5 hours without stopping to check all was OK after a bit (when the hubs would obviously have been hot). Especially a new/unknown trailer. HGV drivers are required to take rests - driving for that long and maintaining proper alertness is difficult; add in your extra stopping distance and it seems to be asking for trouble.

Whilst I'd like to think if I was the vendor I would not have let it happen, and if I somehow had, would want to put you right, I might take the stance that if you had taken the reasonable precaution of having the right breakdown cover then you wouldn't have a huge recovery bill. Likewise if you had checked the hub after say 20 miles the problem would have been obvious and could have been replaced locally for 50.

I'm not simply trying to be smart after the event - there will be other people who read this and will go on to make similar journeys.
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I can't wait to get them both out on the Menai Straits. :-)
given your recent towing experience, just wondered how you're going to two both ribs to Nth Wales, could be an interesting combination
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