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Old 14 January 2014, 14:29   #21
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Easy with hind sight but with a working car and a trailer safely parked in a carpark I think rather than pay 300 for recovery at 2pm I'd have been googling for a trailer spares company in the area and going to get a new bearing & hub and fitted it myself. Would probably have got mooving quicker too.

Fleet policies and 'free' cover with new cars aren't great for trailers...
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Old 14 January 2014, 15:06   #22
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Easy with hind sight but with a working car and a trailer safely parked in a carpark I think rather than pay 300 for recovery at 2pm I'd have been googling for a trailer spares company in the area and going to get a new bearing & hub and fitted it myself. Would probably have got mooving quicker too.

Fleet policies and 'free' cover with new cars aren't great for trailers...
The nice AA man suggested that at first until he got the wheel off and had a look at the damage. He told me that the bearings had to be coded correctly and that the coding numbers had been obliterated so it wouldn't be a simple job. He says at the very minimum I need new hubs and bearings and that I may need a new axle as well. :-(

Not sure if what he told me is correct or not, but he was very helpful and I trusted his experience over my complete lack of experience. At least this will give me the opportunity to learn something new. It's an expensive lesson though. :-)
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Old 14 January 2014, 15:10   #23
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Thanks again for all the well wishes, kept me sane(r) whilst I was sat waiting for the AA and wondering what the heck I was going to do. :-)
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Ouch!!!! Expensive ride home

But if you'd found a trailer place and taken the damaged one they could have matched up with the origionals
Or if you wanted numbers off bearings to check stock before you went you could have taken the other side apart and got the bearing numbers off the good side

Sounds like your helpfull aa man couldn't be bothered or didnt have much idea

As long as the threads and retaining nut were in tact you could of got it rolling

You might have had to dress the shaft a bit with a file to get the new hub on.
But even having to buy the gear to do the job (assuming you had no tools) your looking at 40-50 quid tops inc a new hub

We carry a spare hub with our small trailer more usefull than a spare wheel in my experience
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Old 14 January 2014, 15:28   #25
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Ouch!!!! Expensive ride home

But if you'd found a trailer place and taken the damaged one they could have matched up with the origionals
Or if you wanted numbers off bearings to check stock before you went you could have taken the other side apart and got the bearing numbers off the good side

Sounds like your helpfull aa man couldn't be bothered or didnt have much idea

As long as the threads and retaining nut were in tact you could of got it rolling

You might have had to dress the shaft a bit with a file to get the new hub on.
But even having to buy the gear to do the job (assuming you had no tools) your looking at 40-50 quid tops inc a new hub

We carry a spare hub with our small trailer more usefull than a spare wheel in my experience
All good ideas, I wish I'd thought of them. This has been a crap experience but hopefully some good will come of it. You live and learn. :-)
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The nice AA man suggested that at first until he got the wheel off and had a look at the damage. He told me that the bearings had to be coded correctly and that the coding numbers had been obliterated so it wouldn't be a simple job. He says at the very minimum I need new hubs and bearings and that I may need a new axle as well.
You are very, very lucky. The wheel was in the process of working its way off the stub axle. The inner bearing race is completely shot. You can see the rollers are flat where they've simply worn out. One of the worst I've seen to be honest.

I'd replace the stub axle, hubs and bearings as a matter of course.

Glad you made it back okay.
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Sounds like your helpfull aa man couldn't be bothered or didnt have much idea. As long as the threads and retaining nut were intact you could of got it rolling. You might have had to dress the shaft a bit with a file to get the new hub on.
A little unfair in my opinion.

The axle is completely shot. This isn't simply a set of worn bearings that can be replaced or repacked with grease. That trailer axle looks like it's been neglected for years. The stub axle needs to be clean prior to installing new bearings. It has more than surface rust, it probably has structural corrosion. Imagine the OP had hit a pothole... the wheel would be overtaking him!

The castle nut will probably damage the thread when it's undone, not to mention the thrust washers are goosed. Right call in my opinion from AA - that way the OP can get home safely, courtesy of low-loader.
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Sorry to hear of your hassle today. I am glad that you are alright now though and your investment intact.

Hopefully the seller will be reasonable, in a way at least the trailer and boat are secure on the aa truck. To be fair to you with the distance fixing the problem on route would have been difficult for you in unfamiliar surroundings.

It looks like a bramber trailer like the humber, you should be able to get hub assemblies from trailer companies, tow sure have them. And ones that match the wheel size and Pcd.

In my experience so many people take care of their boats and then leave the trailer. Those bearings have not seen any maintenance for a very long time.

Let me know how you get on. If I am close by travelling could pop in and have a look at the setup if that helps you.
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It's an expensive lesson though.
Welcome to the world of boat ownership!

As a relative noob myself I'm getting a very strong " there but for the grace of God..." feeling about this one. Glad you made it home in one piece.

Right, I'm off to check the small print on my recovery policy....
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Old 14 January 2014, 16:08   #30
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your lucky plod did not stop for a chat I doubt that a 5 meter rib, engine and un-braked trailer are within the towing limits of the car...
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