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Old 01 November 2012, 18:50   #51
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That vehicle can only be driven on a full class 1 (C+E) licence. Categories C1E and C1+E cannot be used for the following reasons:

1. Cat C1E and C1+E only apply when the weight of the trailer (when fully loaded) is less than the unladen weight of the towing vehicle.

2. Cat C1E (which appears on licences issued pre 1997) only applies when the plated GTW does not exceed 8.25 tons.
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Old 03 November 2012, 11:48   #52
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Can it not be use on a b+e as the towing vehicle is less than 3500kg?

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No as the GVW of the tractor unit is 4500kg. Also please there is something wrong with the weight figures being quoted. With a GTW of 10 ton it states that the payload is 5.5 ton. This means the unit and trailer must have a combined ULW of 4.5 ton. This sounds a bit low as old nearly identical rig (this is I beleive my old trailer) was nearer 5 ton. It then states that if the unit was used at 8.25 ton GTW, the payload would be 4.2 ton (ie meaning the ULW must only be 4.05 ton). Surely this should be 3.75 ton, or even a bit less?
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Old 04 November 2012, 04:57   #55
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The iveco daily tractor unit unlaiden weight is 2.5ton and the trailers unlaiden weight is 2 ton total 4.5 ton. Yes you are correct in if it was driven on the 8.25 linces payload would be 3.75 ton.
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I was unaware that the B+E had an upper weight restriction other than the towing vehicle must be no more than 3500kg and the load behind it including trailer must be within the rated weight for the vehicle? Im guessing ive got this wrong somewhere.....
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Have you had the trailer on a bridge? If you have my old trailer (which I believe you do, but with a new front end) it used to weigh around 2500kg empty depending on what supports etc were on it at the time.

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The iveco daily tractor unit unlaiden weight is 2.5ton and the trailers unlaiden weight is 2 ton total 4.5 ton. Yes you are correct in if it was driven on the 8.25 linces payload would be 3.75 ton.
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You are quite correct that there is no train weight limit on B+E at the moment. The cab unit on this rig however has a GVW of 4500kg, so you would need to get it downplated to 3500kg. This would leave you very prone to overloading however, as we found when we used to run the trailer.

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Old 08 March 2015, 04:41   #59
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Max trailer length ???

As devils advocate..........

It appears that the latest raft of EU legislation states the maximum trailer length is 7 meters. With the boat overhanging the trailer I understood we were exempt on the basis of "indivisible load" however as the trailer lights must now be attached to the trailer, not the boat, then they become part of the trailer and I'm sure for many of us will result in a trailer over 7 meters ????

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Old 08 March 2015, 05:30   #60
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Every trailer and boat I own is well over 7 m, WTF are these idiots doing, they jump first then think, nothing new there then


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