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Old 05 June 2014, 18:39   #41
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Loved the pick up bit on the back, just throw all your kit in there and off you go, not sure it would be the same here with all the wet weather and all that
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Old 06 June 2014, 01:14   #42
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Beamish kin, all reports I have now just read are saying its rubbish. Shame as I like the look. I really don't like the styling of the Japanese
cars but seems I may have to sensible for now until I can afford my monster truck
trouble with the internet is you only hear the horror story's no one ever posts about how nothings gone wrong with there car ect I have owned my freelander td4 for coming up two years now and over around 20k miles I have had to fit a clutch master cyl (easy diy)then had a full clutch fitted this was in the first month and I suspect why the po sold it .it has never missed a beat since and nothing has stopped working .my sister has an older freelander with the rover diesel engine she paid 900 for it 5 years ago and has put 60k on it and hasn't even serviced it done nothing but put diesel in never missed a beat
also to consider is the cost of road tax some of the jap 4x4 are in the heavy tax bands
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Old 06 June 2014, 03:57   #43
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What was rated at 1100kg? If it was the trailer then that's fine since the trailer will weigh more than 120kg itself and the axles will be designed to cope with that total weight. If it was the axles...then change them for stronger ones
It was the trailers plated maximum total weight (GVW) of 1100kg (which includes the weight of the trailer). The total weight was 1220kg, so 120kg over.

By the time I've paid for an uprated tow hitch, uprated axles, uprated wheels/tyres, mooring fees while the boat is in the water (for more than a couple of weeks due to time I have available to do the changes), I've gone for the easier (and quicker) option of a new trailer with a much higher capacity which will allow me to take camping ger, etc. in the boat too.

So although I appreciate what you're saying, it was just an all-round better option for me to change the trailer.
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If you are considering launching from a beach where there might be soft sand etc, or a steep slippery slipway, anything that doesn't have a transfer case with low range will be of no use to you, I did a back to back test for Autocar a few years ago on 9 4x4s, using our local sandpit to put them through their paces. The Freelander spat its clutch out after its first attempt at some wet sand. Rav 4 did ok, the Lexus couldn't even get to the tricky bit and kept grounding out and getting stuck. Realistically none of the Soft Roaders are designed to do anything other than on road with the odd excursion onto very light off road or icy conditions. When you throw a trailer into the mix, they really are not designed with that sort of use in mind.
A lot of them use the same Borg Warner rear diff design with a viscose coupling on the nose of the diff. These are pretty fragile and wont take any abuse. at all.
The Rav, Suzuki and Nissan would probably feature in my top 3 if I had to go that route. For more money the Skoda Yeti is probably the best one out there at the moment, very solidly built and drives nicely. We put a helicopter landing pad on one for Skoda, it didn't need any re enforcing, very well built.
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If you are considering launching from a beach where there might be soft sand etc, or a steep slippery slipway, anything that doesn't have a transfer case with low range will be of no use to you, I did a back to back test for Autocar a few years ago on 9 4x4s, using our local sandpit to put them through their paces. The Freelander spat its clutch out after its first attempt at some wet sand. Rav 4 did ok, the Lexus couldn't even get to the tricky bit and kept grounding out and getting stuck. Realistically none of the Soft Roaders are designed to do anything other than on road with the odd excursion onto very light off road or icy conditions. When you throw a trailer into the mix, they really are not designed with that sort of use in mind.
A lot of them use the same Borg Warner rear diff design with a viscose coupling on the nose of the diff. These are pretty fragile and wont take any abuse. at all.
The Rav, Suzuki and Nissan would probably feature in my top 3 if I had to go that route. For more money the Skoda Yeti is probably the best one out there at the moment, very solidly built and drives nicely. We put a helicopter landing pad on one for Skoda, it didn't need any re enforcing, very well built.

Cant argue about the Lexus, the worst tow car I have ever owned, still cant work out why I even bought it .



My better half has owned CR-V (05), Xtrail (04)and Suzuki (06). Suzuki had low range box and was much better on the slipway, CR-V was nicest on road but Xtrail probably wins for all round compromise in the real world. No low range on the Xtrail, but it does have some kind of mild diff lock which does help when it gets slippy.
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Beer belly, it is refreshing to hear that not every one of the land rovers will fall apart, that was what I was hoping to hear but there is no denying there are more bad reviews about them than most other cars which is a real shame.

While I usually do overkill on most things I do, my next tow vehicle will never see off roading seriously, and the slipways will always be concrete so I guess (and I really hate to even think the following) I will have to follow the sensible path and go Japanese.

I was set on an l200 until I sat in one and just didn't like it. Why is it every car I have wanted has disappointed, begining to think I should have kept my Vw transporter.

Will go and try the rav 4 and Nissan and see if any speak to me.

Thanks for all the advice, beginning to also wonder if I just stick the rib on the dry stack and don't replace the car!
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Looks like I have found a nice Toyota rav4 2.0 petrol, hoping it will be up to the job of launch and recovery on a nice concrete slipway.
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Will go and try the rav 4 and Nissan !
That's the one
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Daihatsu fourtrack but the one with electric 4 high switch and diff lock in the cab not on the hubs pissa of a mota u can get a gem f 3k
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