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Old 10 October 2008, 13:03   #41
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There's a lot of very well meant opinion and interpretation here. Amongst all that will be some errors which some may take as fact. Is anybody qualified to summarise the legal position accurately?
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Old 10 October 2008, 13:13   #42
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Is anybody qualified to summarise the legal position accurately?
I think based on other discussions on here on the past on similar topics - it is questionable whether there is anyone in the whole country who can give a definitive and unambiguous answer on some aspects of trailer/towing law!

However - you'll find the a relatively readable guide here: http://www.ntta.co.uk/

If Solent-Salted takes his trailer to the weighbridge he would be advised to fix his lighting and number plate issues before towing it on the road again and attracting attention.
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All this conjecture is meaningless. He's been stopped and the police have refused to allow him to proceed because they say (with no evidence) that his boat/trailer weight is over 750kg and the trailer is unbraked. There'sonly one course of action-get to the weighbridge and weigh the rig, prove he wasn't breaking the law then force the police to cough up for the recovery charge.
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.....the 750Kg Max is only applicable to vehicles that are rated for it. ......... however hitching it on the back of a Corsa or similarly small car I'm not sure it would even be legal on a braked trailer!
Ms DHD's 1.2 Corsa is ok to tow 1000kg on a braked trailer
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All this conjecture is meaningless. He's been stopped and the police have refused to allow him to proceed because they say (with no evidence) that his boat/trailer weight is over 750kg and the trailer is unbraked. There'sonly one course of action-get to the weighbridge and weigh the rig, prove he wasn't breaking the law then force the police to cough up for the recovery charge.
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All this conjecture is meaningless. He's been stopped and the police have refused to allow him to proceed because they say (with no evidence) that his boat/trailer weight is over 750kg and the trailer is unbraked. There'sonly one course of action-get to the weighbridge and weigh the rig,
yes - which is surprising / confusing and somehow I'm not sure we are getting the full story. I note S-S himself wasn't driving so we are getting it third hand. Perhaps the conversation was more like "Well Sir, if you can't be sure that the load isn't over weight then I recommend you get it recovered, because if we check it and it is over the limit we will issue a fixed penalty notice."

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good luck to him! I doubt he can prove that - all he can show is that a few days later a boat on a trailer was legal. Whats more without them having issued any formal notice there is probably no way that S-S can prove that he was "forced" to have it recovered.
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just as a matter of law interpritation , a large truck ran away on a steep hill localy a few years ago and went through the front of a shop killing a large number of people ,at the inquest the police mecanic said the trucks brakes were illegal but the vosa inspector said they were worn but legal .and by the way old man chappelow was a transport inspector for over 30 years ,
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yes - which is surprising / confusing and somehow I'm not sure we are getting the full story. I note S-S himself wasn't driving so we are getting it third hand. Perhaps the conversation was more like "Well Sir, if you can't be sure that the load isn't over weight then I recommend you get it recovered, because if we check it and it is over the limit we will issue a fixed penalty notice."

good luck to him! I doubt he can prove that - all he can show is that a few days later a boat on a trailer was legal. Whats more without them having issued any formal notice there is probably no way that S-S can prove that he was "forced" to have it recovered.
Said officer should have it written up...if SS can remember his name.
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good luck to him! I doubt he can prove that - all he can show is that a few days later a boat on a trailer was legal.
Does the term "Innocent until proven guilty" have any bearing here?

It seems odd that a traffic official can impound a vehicle for breaking the law with no information to base that on (other than a wild-assed guess.)

Granted, the operator should know that the load is legal, but shouldn't the authorities also assume so unless something comes up to prove that different?

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