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Old 02 February 2013, 09:30   #11
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Or the other option is to go for a VW passat 1.6 diesel but its free and then upgrade our Disco TD5
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Old 02 February 2013, 10:07   #12
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The A5 I had was the 2.0l 140 BHP which I think is the same as what you are looking at. It pulled fine only a few problems one of which you were there for and where you launch at very low tides you may need to use the rope method as traction could be a problem. I would go for the Audi that Passat would be well underpowered. Have you checked the towing weight of the A4
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Try looking at a Passat TDI 4Motion - I've had two now they pull very well and have haldex 4x4 same as audi quattro with very good fuel cosumption too.

VW now do a passat alltrack which has raised suspension and supposed to be a bit tougher.

Also subaru diesels are good although early ones (2008/2009) apparently had lots of clutch issues

Anyway I'd rate the passat 4motion and would def buy another. No reversing sensors on either of mine but the towbars were both retro fitted never bothered with re-mapping the ecu for towing, they tow fine in normal setup
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I used to tow my 5.8 Prosport with my A3 which had the 1.9tdi engine. Absolutely fine from a towing and launching perspective. I self fitted the oem Audi towing kit, which requires a simple bit of coding on the car electrics using Vagcom or getting your dealer to do it for you. It's mainly to tell it about the extra lights for it's bulb self-check circuit and to get the dashboard warning lights to show that the indicators are working on the trailerboard. There is a microswitch in the 13 pin towing electrics which disengages the fog lights and probably also tells it to turn off the reversing sensors. You can also recode the towing sensors to allow for the extra few inches that the tow bar sticks out.
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I used to be able to choose any car I wanted but now there is basically two cars worth looking at:

VW Passat Bluemotion 1.6 litre TDI 105 PS

Or

Audi A4 Saloon SE Technic 2.0 TDIe 136 PS

These are the models I have to choose from and there is no cash alternative.

This is a 4 year deal so I need to get it right.
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Not much help to you, but my 3 litre quattro is an amazing tow car. Far more torque than the 2.5 litre engine. Factory fitted removeable (hinged) tow bar was a 700 option, for the convenience and ease of operation it is well worth it to my mind. And no dented shins
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Im thinking the 105 passat is going to be bloody gutless dude. The audi is sounding a better bet. I had a new a4 estate 140 and never was compromised in power. Audi wanted 1000 squids for tow bar and re mapping. So went honeyfield trailers and got a removable one for 300. Didnt tell leasing co as it was likely they would have said no!!
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Go for the Audi, the VW will be fine as an every day car, but will be gutless when towing.

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diver: Try looking at a Passat TDI 4Motion - I've had two now they pull very well and have haldex 4x4 same as audi quattro with very good fuel cosumption too.
Not quite. Don't get me wrong, the VW 4Motion is a damn fine car, same space as an A6, more rear legroom, more boot space, a refined and comfortable drive in SE specification, and probably better fuel consumption overall.

Hadlex is part-time 4WD and kicks in when wheels lose traction? Primarily it's front wheel drive the rest of the time. Same as Audi TT and A3 quattro or S3, etc.

Only A4, A6 Q5, Q7, etc, are permanent 4 wheel drive and authentic quattro.
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Do Audi and VW use the same engines these days
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Basically yes. Right now I've got the use of a new Audi a3 1.6 td (hire car) and a vw tiguan 2.0 td 140 auto. Despite the weight difference the lack of torque in the a3 is really noticeable. I used to tow an RC 585 using a 2.0 mondeo which was ok. I wouldn't want to use the a3 to tow the same boat.
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