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Old 07 July 2011, 07:02   #1
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Manufacturer-certificate Rapide-Trailer

Hello!

This spring I bought a second hand Rib with trailer in UK. Extremly happy with the support and the help from those involved!
However to be able to register the trailer in Sweden (mandatory) I need a paper from the manufacturer, (Certificate Of Conformity or a manufacturer-certificate) stating that this trailer has been made by the manufacturer. (I have all receipts, also the very first one. But that is not enough).
The Rapide trailer division was apperently sold (2009?) from Dixon Bate to Mersea trailers. (my trailer is from 2005) I have contacted both companies but both put the "responsibility" on the other one. I really need this document otherwise I need to buy me another trailer....

Anyone having an idea on how to proceed or even some connection within any of thoose companies?

Any kind of ideas/help is very much appreciated!

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Old 07 July 2011, 08:17   #2
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responsibility goes with the Rapide Trailer division - so would be with Mersea Trailers...

might be easier to sell it and buy another!

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Old 07 July 2011, 10:18   #3
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Anyone having an idea on how to proceed or even some connection within any of thoose companies?
I have a mobile phone number 07725203407 for a Gareth at Mersea - supposedly their Dixon-Bate expert. The number was given to me by the lady that answers the phone at Mersea.

Result...no-one at D-B on the 0870 number claimed to know anything technically about D-B trailers when I rang, and the mobile was never answered and messages were never returned

Good luck!
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Old 07 July 2011, 16:50   #4
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Thanks,
Selling a trailer that is barely useable is not so good business... if I can register it it is probably worth the double. Still that is probably the way I must go.

I been in contact several times with Mersea, and judging from their customer support (so far) I would not recommend buiyng one of their trailers. (Hoping I can withdraw that statement)

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Old 07 July 2011, 17:15   #5
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Hi Martin. As Your trailer is manufactured 2005, EU/CE regulations for 2005 will apply(more or less). As You have the receipts, those can be considered to be proof that trailer has been taken into use 2005, and this within EU. I registered a Indispension trailer from UK(trailer was made 2005) it was not easy but doable. And the Finnish MOT are really strict and always goes by the book(EU/CE), i am pretty sure they are worse than in Sweden. It might be the case that by changing the person handling the registering, things will improve for You(change location/office).

But things that needed to be documented well already 2005 is the drawbar, axle and brakes. If You have serial plates on the trailer with specification things are looking much better. Also if You can get hold of an owners manual, it helps. ALKO is commonly used subcontractor for brakes and drawbars, if those are used on Your trailer, should not be too tough to get certificates for those components directly from manufacturer, they will full-fill requirements.

joakimhansson here has also trailered a boat from UK, maybe he can help also.


The frame should not be an issue, at lest mine was not welded on critical spots so it was OK. Don't know all the details but don't give in, I am pretty sure its doable.

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Old 14 July 2011, 03:41   #6
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Hi,

The authorities in Sweden need to do a "check of origin". Does not have anything to do with if the trailer is safe or so. If the trailer was registred, the register documents would be enough (not done in UK). I just spent 20 minutes in the phone with the Swedish Transport Authority and I will not come forward without relevant document from the manufacturer.
A "simple" document stating that they have manufactured a trailer with this S/N, the type, max weight and it must be signed.

I am seriously disappointed about the support from the UK-manufacturer...
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I am seriously disappointed about the support from the UK-manufacturer...
Now why am I not surprised :-(
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Martin,
I have had difficulties just trying to buy spares from Mersea, however, when I did finally get to speak to the MD he seemed genuinely helpful and co-operative. Whilst I am not singing their praises if you make enough of a nuisance of yourself you may eventually get put through to him (as I did). I'll see if I can find his name for you this evening; it may help if you can ask for him by name.
Just a random thought, but have you thought of creating the document yourself and sending it to them so that all they have to do is sign it and return? Might just tip the balance...............
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I am seriously disappointed about the support from the UK-manufacturer...
I can understand your frustration - but from their perspective:

- you are not their customer (having bought 2nd hand)
- they have no such requirement for their actual customers (UK regs being more relaxed)
- the company ownership has changed hands (therefore the people who sold the original are probably no longer involved)

So other than politeness and helpfulness why would they divert their attention from their current paying customers to help you?

Is there some way that you can register the trailer as though it were 'home built'? E.g. if I made a kit car in the UK I can put it through a process called a Single Vehicle Authority. I believe people do the same for odd one off imports as well.
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Hi,

The authorities in Sweden need to do a "check of origin". Does not have anything to do with if the trailer is safe or so. If the trailer was registred, the register documents would be enough (not done in UK). I just spent 20 minutes in the phone with the Swedish Transport Authority and I will not come forward without relevant document from the manufacturer.
A "simple" document stating that they have manufactured a trailer with this S/N, the type, max weight and it must be signed.

I am seriously disappointed about the support from the UK-manufacturer...
OK. I had litle same issue about the moment of registering in UK. But as explained that trailers are not registered at all in UK(as own units), they accepted that had added to the the sales contract(of the trailer), that the previous owners confirmed when it was taken into traffic in UK. This was the considered as Year of "registering". Serials i needed to stamp into the frame, the serials on the plate is not enough here.

Maybe the self build thing will work, but for sure You need some papers then on drawbar, brakes and axles?
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