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Old 16 May 2011, 13:05   #1
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Launching issues

Now i'm posting for a mate here as i can launch and recover with my car quite easily, however its a different story for him.

They have just got themselves a new Rib x 535 on a bunk trailer. Our slipway at Herne Bay is quite a gentle slope so the cars wheels literally touch the salt waters edge and the boat is still not far enough in. Of course he doesnt want to get the car wet, but its bloody hard work getting the boat off. Getting it back is much easier.

My question is, is it ok to extend the trailer using rope and if so whats a decent knott to use and where to you tie it to the trailer. Of course we would get a decent rope first rather than some cotton strands

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Old 16 May 2011, 13:55   #2
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We used to do the same with a 650 on a bunked trailer.
Reverse trailer to top of slip so there is a little pressure down the slip and then chock both wheels and brake the trailer(if braked). Then with a good strong 14mm rope about 30fet long place a loop at each end then unhitch trailer from tow hhok, put one rope eye onto towhook and then feed the rope through the trailer and back to tow hook and attach other eye.
Now take up the rope slack and then unchock trailer and brake off. and slowly move down the slope (make sure trailer was straight before). Kepp your car engine running to keep brake pressure.
As the trailer enters the water you cn judge how deep it is needed to float off and then climb on , lower engine to suit and start engine, then disconnect boat from trailer winch.

Do this the opposite way to recover, if you recall where the tyres were in the wter for depth then the boat can just be driven on and winched last foot. Car tyres never get wet- you keep grip. Danger areas are not chocking trailer properly. Hope that gives an idea. I still use this method if needed on different launch sites when not on dry stack.
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Hope that gives an idea.
Thats brillaint, thankyou for taking the time to write that.

I will let him know and get some rope. When you said you feed it through the trailer whereabouts do you mean.

Sorry to be a little thick but of course need to get it right.
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Thats brillaint, thankyou for taking the time to write that.

I will let him know and get some rope. When you said you feed it through the trailer whereabouts do you mean.

Sorry to be a little thick but of course need to get it right.
The rope needs to be just fed through somewhere need the front , maybe the support post for the winch and about the height of the tow hitch on the car but the rope needs to move freely as it is not tied here just fed around support so it cannot come out. Everything you do must be slowly
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The rope needs to be just fed through somewhere need the front , maybe the support post for the winch and about the height of the tow hitch on the car but the rope needs to move freely as it is not tied here just fed around support so it cannot come out. Everything you do must be slowly
Perfect, i was thinking around the winch post by the main trailer bar, but didnt want to say that in case i was completly wrong.

Thanks for that. I will pop up in the morning and let him know that rope is ok and this is how to do it.

Hopefully will make life a lot easier.
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What about reversing down the slip with the trailer still connected to the car, when the trailer is in the water but not so deep you can't get to the tow hitch, then unhook the trailer with a rope attached?

The trailer should be far enough in so the resistance of the water would control the speed of the trailer the rest of the way in, negating the use of chocks etc.

When you've done it once you should know how long the rope needs to be so you can make something up and permanently attach it to the trailer. Maybe put a sling hook or similar on the end to attach to the car. If you use one of those tow bars with the ball hitch and pin underneath you could clip the rope to the pin leaving the ball free to re/disconnect the trailer.
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What about reversing down the slip with the trailer still connected to the car, when the trailer is in the water but not so deep you can't get to the tow hitch, then unhook the trailer with a rope attached?

Cheers Martini,

Another one for us to try. Its really annoying because it only needs another metre or so to make life easier.

We will try both i think and see what we find the easiest and safest
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As Ian say's however just to add I would NEVER reverse down a slip with just the winch strap attached to the boat, always have a second secure method seen far to many straps snap and "Dry Launch" the boat
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As Ian say's however just to add I would NEVER reverse down a slip with just the winch strap attached to the boat, always have a second secure method seen far to many straps snap and "Dry Launch" the boat
Good point, not seen it myself in the flesh yet but seen some you tube clips.

I have a secondary clip and wire on the winch post attached to the towing eye of the boat just in case.

Did however see someone get it stupidly wrong on Sunday and manage to take their speed boat across the ramp and hit with some force the side of it. Needless to say they damaged the lower leg..... A very expensive mistake.
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.....I would suggest that you use a bowline to tie the rope between the car and trailer.

Better yet consider a strap instead of rope.

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