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Old 05 December 2017, 13:16   #1
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Is that smoke?

Holy handbrake Batman! Is that smoke I see coming from the wheels?

So there I was driving back from getting engine serviced.

Rolled trailer up to car, checked it after 5 mins driving, all good.
Short motorway leg, then urban traffic. All good.
New (to me) car. Tows pretty well I think to myself. All good.
Wow, that was a big pothole. Checks mirror. All good.

Turn at next junction. Huh? She's not pulling well. Huh? Tried heavier right foot (see above- new to me car)- more noise from engine- not normal acceleration. Not all good...

Better pull in. Great idea I think to myself. It's going to be all good.
Holy Sh!t Batman. Smoke from BOTH wheels? Not good.

Trailer handbrake lever had popped up! Problem solved but smoke continues, not quite all good.

What did I do next? To make it all good?
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Old 05 December 2017, 13:25   #2
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sounds like either brake is jammed on due to cables knackered or the bump has broken the rivets/glue that holds the shoe material and is rubbing/jammed on the drums.

probably need new cables, shoes and clean the drums up...common job on trailers. also adjust cables and grease the ram if required to stop the brake jamming when you compress it under braking and therefore the handbrake jumping on.

i'm guessing the long cable from hitch to cables wasn't adjusted correctly in order for the hand brake to jump on.
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Old 05 December 2017, 13:31   #3
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Depending on how far you've driven it you may have fried the shoes many are glued on and the excess heat may have detached the linings from the shoes
It can also fry the grease seals and allow the hot grease to escape from the bearings.
I'd strip both sides and check bearings and shoes
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Old 05 December 2017, 14:11   #4
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Depends on the hitch setup but the mechanism that links the handbrake and overrun brake uses a tube with a little lever that rotates round a short spindle under the hitch. Newer ones have a grease nipple on the "tube" so as it can be greased but older ones didn't and the "tube" seizes onto the spindle (generally doubles as the bolt that secures the handbrake lever)
If this happens the brakes won't release properly after the handbrake has been applied and the handbrake lever moves with the overrun mechanism. Make sure the main rod is moving back all the way, might need a chap with a hammer on the mechanism.
If you need to strip this to clean and grease it be very careful with the "energy store" ram for the handbrake as there's a lot of tension in it.
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Old 05 December 2017, 17:08   #5
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I released the parking brake, then tried to figure out the quickest way to cool the brakes (and stop the smoke).
So I drove off!

If the brakes hadn't released I'd know straight away, if they had released then there would be continual cooling airflow.
It worked, I avoided any braking I could and made it the rest of the way with one stop to check how things were going.

Thanks for the advice.
Jambo, I think you're right about linkage/greasing releasing, won't go near the energy store myself.
I had only travelled a short distance with the brakes on so hopefully not too much damage.
The parking brake still works and bites sharply when applied, so hopefully I won't find too much damage when I open them up.

As I stood there wondering whether my boat was about to be fried (rib flambe a la trailer) I thought about the fire extinguisher sitting at home. Won't tow without one again.
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Old 05 December 2017, 18:26   #6
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As I stood there wondering whether my boat was about to be fried (rib flambe a la trailer) I thought about the fire extinguisher sitting at home. Won't tow without one again.
Interesting post. I tow 3.5 tons of trailered RIB up the hills and down the glens. I notice a very big difference in hub temperatures depending on ambient temperatures. Driving without heavy braking certainly cools them down quite quickly. Fire is a personal bugbear (I've had too many at "real" work to be relaxed) and I always have an extinguisher in the tow truck. My advice is make it a 2kg (a decent 20-30 second burst) and keep it where you can grab it - mine is mounted in front of the passenger seat rails - rally stylie.
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Old 06 December 2017, 01:18   #7
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Maybe keep a fire extinguisher on the Rib. Assist with fires at sea and would be there for towing issues like you describe (if itís somewhere easy and close to hand).
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This one got hot !
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Old 06 December 2017, 02:59   #9
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Yes, fire extinguisher on boat alright. I don't like fire (prob not alone in that) so wouldn't climb into a burning anything, would have been disconnecting car instead (plan B).

whiskylee, their brakes were fine!
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If the brakes stick, the first thing I do is reverse a short distance, this quite often frees them off.
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