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Old 06 November 2008, 08:23   #31
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Can you point me in the direction of the bumf on 5th Wheelers?

Can't find Navara rated for towing anything more than 2,700 Kg.... So 4,500..even allowing for 5th wheel weight of 1,050 (Navara Payload) is still "out" ? Have asked trailer manufacturer to explain. If they can be "legal" I am tempted to look hard at them
I think the old shape Navara had a higher towing weight-Honest Johns says the 02-05 models were rated to 3000kg though they say some pretty uncomplimentary things about the engine too.
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/index.htm?md=638

As John said, there's no distinction between 5th wheel and normal trailers. As long as it all falls within the plated axle weights for the car and trailer it's legal as long as you've got a licence to drive it.

I get the feeling it's a bit of a grey area though. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 'clarified' by DVLA at some point which may well screw some people.
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Old 06 November 2008, 21:06   #32
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[QUOTE=Rogue Wave;270231A friend has offered me his F250 with a Cummins V8 diesel and a fifth wheel coupling. I'm quite interested in it as I need to get the jet boat more mobile.
what I don't want to do is buy a fkk off big truck I don't have a use for........again [/QUOTE]

An F250 with a Cummins diesel would be a strange beast given that Ford fit their own Powerstroke units to F series trucks. Are you sure you don't mean a Dodge Ram 2500?
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An F250 with a Cummins diesel would be a strange beast given that Ford fit their own Powerstroke units to F series trucks. Are you sure you don't mean a Dodge Ram 2500?
Not "uncommon" to repower with Cummins in the UK... Common as muck engine here. Thought about dropping the one out of my old Leyland into my truck to replace the 351 Windsor....but Feck it..it don't do enough miles to warrant that..and that V8 sound... you canna beat it
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Old 07 November 2008, 12:40   #34
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An F250 with a Cummins diesel would be a strange beast given that Ford fit their own Powerstroke units to F series trucks. Are you sure you don't mean a Dodge Ram 2500?

Yes your right enough in what you say

The Ford Powerstorokes AKA powerjokes are straight 6 engines and are designed by International my buddy, a marine engineer, passed on last year and his widow is asking me if I was interested in the pickup. When he was alive I remember having a chat with him about the truck and he told me that for a short period they used Cummins engines which were vastly superior to the Ford lumps.

I haven't been to look at it since it was offered to me as I'm determined to find a use for it before I saddle myself with a big road engine. (I'm so proud of my willpower )

To get back on to the thrust of the question
I am not a director of the company who owns the boat (my wife and son are)
so if I were to tow it somewhere for no reward would I need a tachograph amd an O licence. I'm not so bothered about the tacho but the O licene comes with a lot of hoo haa for somethig I'm unlikely to do more tha 5 times a year.
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To get back on to the thrust of the question
I am not a director of the company who owns the boat (my wife and son are)
Well should be quite simple then. What would a business case suggest?

contract someone else to tow it at 200 a trip x 5 pa so 1000

or

DIY with suitable vehicle, if so what are the annual costs?

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How about becoming a gippo then .. tow anything of any size, in any combination with impunity, and I'm not sure if they even have to run on white
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Stu, I think you might need an MOT for the trailer as well.

http://www.motorcaravanning.com/vehicles/towing.htm


You need to ring VOSA really and have a chat. Just don't give your name
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How about becoming a gippo then .. tow anything of any size, in any combination with impunity, and I'm not sure if they even have to run on white

Good point, there is always that option, I'm certainly scruffy enough to get away with it and I am alergic to paperwork.
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A white Transit should do the job then
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How about becoming a gippo then .. tow anything of any size, in any combination with impunity, and I'm not sure if they even have to run on white
The fact that it is someone else's boat will help your disguise .
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