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Old 05 February 2013, 13:24   #1
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fixing a lighting board

Anyone got any pics of how you fix your lighting board to your trailer , I thought I had it sorted by making a couple of brackets that slip on transom and are held down with bungees .but I have read on here that that is illegal to have it on your load it must be fitted to the trailer ,,,,,,,,,,,,

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I wouldn't worry. That doesn't look any higher than the rear lights on a Discovery.
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Old 05 February 2013, 15:07   #3
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but I have read on here that that is illegal to have it on your load it must be fitted to the trailer ,,,,,,,,,,,,
but read further and you'll see that it was rightly pointed out that that would make all of the dinghys, towed on the road, illegal...

The facts here: The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989

I'll have a look for anything else for you.
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The law says... the lights shall be attached to the trailer. It doesn't say shall not be attached to the load.

HOWEVER, you are using a projecting load (section 21 of the regs that Trailer Guy refers to). Part 6 of S21 says you will move a light if it is obscured by the projecting load. So that is the basis of boat trailers using a moveable lighting board.

Is the No Plate legal - thats much more likely to get you pulled over. Not sure skull and cross bones are legal! I believe a Scottish Saltire isn't either...

The lights may be too close the the centre? >400mm from the edge?
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The law says... the lights shall be attached to the trailer. It doesn't say shall not be attached to the load.

HOWEVER, you are using a projecting load (section 21 of the regs that Trailer Guy refers to). Part 6 of S21 says you will move a light if it is obscured by the projecting load. So that is the basis of boat trailers using a moveable lighting board.
Actually is says A vehicle which carries a load or equipment which obscures any obligatory lamp, reflector or rear marking. the obligatory lamp, reflector or rear marking shall be transferred to a position on the vehicle, load or equipment where it is not obscured; [or fit an extra lamp etc].

Putting it on the A-frame however may be illegal as there is a Height Restriction.


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Is the No Plate legal - thats much more likely to get you pulled over. Not sure skull and cross bones are legal! I believe a Scottish Saltire isn't either...
Legal within the UK but does not exempt you from a GB badge in Europe. The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) (Amendment) Regulations 2009

Skull and Cross bones not covered by that rule though!
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The full law here: The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989

I've not found anything relating to height, as ShinyShoe says, however, I've seen lots of mentions of a max height of 1.5m (a few councils and RYA have said this), as mentioned here:

http://www.rya.org.uk/sitecollection...EGULATIONS.pdf

See page 12
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I've not found anything relating to height, as ShinyShoe says, however, I've seen lots of mentions of a max height of 1.5m (a few councils and RYA have said this)
Schedule 10 - Part 1 Para 2(c)

But I think you could reasonably argue that placing it lower (i.e. between the toob ends) would obscure its view from a number of angles and placing it lower is not practical for the trailer design so you have up to 2.1m.

I'd be surprised if that board was >1.5m anyway.
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Agreed. I read that 2.1m height thing too. It seems odd that they stipulate a height, but then sort of say, "but if it's not practical, then don't worry, 2.1m is fine"

The trouble is, if you had a particularly grumpy officer of the law, they may argue the siting and it's practicality. And we all know the old adage - the interpretation of the law is down to the individual court!
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Minimum height off the road for the board /lights , indicators, reflectors is 350 mm also applies to the (side on )amber reflectors .
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Agreed. I read that 2.1m height thing too. It seems odd that they stipulate a height, but then sort of say, "but if it's not practical, then don't worry, 2.1m is fine"

The trouble is, if you had a particularly grumpy officer of the law, they may argue the siting and it's practicality. And we all know the old adage - the interpretation of the law is down to the individual court!
MAX HEIGHTS:

1.5m (or 2.1 m absolute max) for Tail / Stop lights
1.5m (or 2.3 m absolute max) for Indicators
1.0m for Fog Lights [not required if trailer in <1.3m]
0.9m (or 1.2 m absolute max) for rear reflectors
0.9m (or 1.5 m absolute max) for front reflectors

As mchappelow says there are minimum heights too.

Nobody here has ever reported these rules being rigorously enforced, but your view on risk might depend on the impact of (another) 3 points...
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