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Old 04 April 2005, 07:39   #11
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It is a legal requirement now, although the trailer manufacturers don't really seem to have taken heed of this; I have two trailers which were built in the last few years (RIB trailer included). Both of these have 5/6mm stainless steel rope loops which pretrude from under the hitch. Now, the law says this must NOT be placed around the tow ball. Niether of my loops are long enough to go anywhere else.

IF they were longer, what am I supposed to attach them to; the little "pig tail" on the towbar is only designed to take a breakaway cable and hence snap when it becomes effective.

What is the solution??
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Old 04 April 2005, 07:44   #12
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............the law says this must NOT be placed around the tow ball. .............
That not really right Tim, this is from Natta. “Attach safety breakaway cable(s) to the rear of vehicle. This cable will apply the hand brake if for any reason the trailer becomes detached whilst towing. (Clip the breakaway cable onto the special rings some towbars have or loop it around the bar, making sure it cannot foul the coupling head. Do not loop it round the towball neck unless you can find no alternative.) Check that the breakaway and lighting cables have enough slack for cornering but will not touch the ground.”
And you will see that with a lot of Detachable tow bars you have no alternative but to use the ball neck . Incidentally it is rear for the ball to fall off, it is usually the hitch being miss attached or failing. Des
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Whilst one might have no option other than to loop it round the ball (which I do; of course this has to be better than not bothering) it is still against the law (according to Towsure)

In my opinion it isn't very safe at all; if I'm driving along a bumpy road when the hitch comes undone for what ever reason, I very much doubt that the loop will stay looped around the tow ball.
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Whilst one might have no option other than to loop it round the ball (which I do; of course this has to be better than not bothering) it is still against the law (according to Towsure)
Tim, Towsure are wrong, EC 94/20 is the legislative standard and to be fair is misinterpreted by many go to http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/preparing/hitching.htm for a users guide Natta is the representative body for people like Witter and Brink who are the two main towbar manufactures in the UK and do know what they are saying. Des
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the legal term is secondery coupling

and yes it is legal or 4 points wichever you choose
Again it seems to me the only purpose of a secondery coupling is to apply the brakes - what happens with an unbraked trailer???
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There seems to be some confusion here... a secondary coupling is NOT used to activate the brakes on a trailer. It is required for un-braked trailers to give some measure of control in the failure of a hitch. A braked trailer requires a means of activating the trailer brakes in the event of separation. This is "the breakaway" cable that people refer to...
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Indeed, but it is true that by law trailers now MUST have one or the other (isn't it??)
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Indeed, but it is true that by law trailers now MUST have one or the other (isn't it??)
Yep, on new trailers you should have a loop However it is not retrospectively applicable so older trailers might be exempt, having said that given the cost and peace of mind I’d fit one Des
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