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Old 05 May 2008, 03:44   #1
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Degraaff Should i expect more

I ordered a new 2600kg swing beem trailer about sept 07 specificly for my pac 22 from Arthur.I picked it up on a dry day and before i drove it out the car park i sprayed every accesable part with 4 litres of wd40.I drove to JBT marine the yard men from the marina next door lowered the pac 22 on to trailer and kindly adjusted it correctly ,drove back still dry no wet roads.I also made another trip to folley marine to pick up my other pac 22 that again was lowered on also dry their and back.The trailer in some places is coroding .Since then it has been covered upnot near the sea . I had reason last month to roll the boat off onto pallets and the hull scraped along a barand bent it that is welded across the framework.I phoned Degraff about the two problems.1.He said that the bar i refer to is put their because the trailers come back bent from the galvanisers and he tells people if they have a problem with them cut them off.I was actually speechless and couldnt beleave what i heard.So calmly said Oh?and what about the raw ends you can paint them or we can give you a couple of plugs to stop up the ends.At that i said nicely that i would send him some photos of the trailer for his attention and look forward to his reply.I have heard nothing back after two weeks.I sent another e-mail and said i at least expected some sort of reply but again nothing.So i wanted to know what anyone on here thinks .The photos are coroded rollers are at the front and non are at the back
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Old 05 May 2008, 06:41   #2
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Galvanising works by sacrificing itself. That corrosion is perfectly in order. The rusty nuts are normal too because they will only be lightly plated rather than galvanised. If it bothers you, swap them for stainless ones. Fitting washers might be good too. It's probably not a good idea to put protective compounds onto a galvanised trailer. The bits which are less well covered will be forced to sacrifice themselves a little more to compensate for the areas of covered zinc.

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I drove to JBT marine the yard men from the marina next door lowered the pac 22 on to trailer and kindly adjusted it correctly... ...I had reason last month to roll the boat off onto pallets and the hull scraped along a bar and bent it...
Perhaps it wasn't adjusted as well as you thought.
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Old 05 May 2008, 06:56   #3
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Hi ,its not the adjustment the bar shouldnt be there.Having now had this problem i see that the whole idea of swing beams v shaped is not to have a bar 8 or so inches higher from one side to tother it was obviously an oversite on their side.for over 2,500 i didnt realley expect to be hacking off metal and painting the raw edges or haveing corosion on some parts like i have and it not been in the water or to my knowlegde as i bought it brand new.And i did expect a reply from Degraff even if was the same as yours.I can see you are a lot more laid back than I and thankyou for your reply
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.... for over 2,500 i didnt realley expect to be hacking off metal and painting the raw edges....
I find myself agreeing with you...normally you'd find me saying, "bloody professionals" but I've been good recently so I won't spoil it.

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The corrosion does look normal for Galv - as to the open box section you don't want it sealed as water will be trapped inside.

Steel frames do need bracing as they tend to warp when being galvanised. if the bar is in the way for normal use then it should have been designed better.

Not responding to your calls is ignorant unless there is a good reason - maybe on holiday etc?

As to rusty nuts they are great - it means they will NEVER come undone. They found that out with Land Rovers in Africa - new ones keep coming apart - older ones are fine as they are all rusted together!!!
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Can we have a photo of the offending beam and where it's sighted, might help me when picking my De Graaff up.

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Old 05 May 2008, 08:59   #7
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The corrosion does look normal for Galv - as to the open box section you don't want it sealed as water will be trapped inside.

Steel frames do need bracing as they tend to warp when being galvanised. if the bar is in the way for normal use then it should have been designed better.

Not responding to your calls is ignorant unless there is a good reason - maybe on holiday etc?

As to rusty nuts they are great - it means they will NEVER come undone. They found that out with Land Rovers in Africa - new ones keep coming apart - older ones are fine as they are all rusted together!!!
I agree codders the corrosion looks normal for a trailer one has used in a salt envioroment and in there car park i sprayed all over it twice with wd 40.And they may be on holiday but i think they just cant be bothered.I know we all make mistakes and its OK as long as we go some way to rectify them .
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Just for comparison. My Rapide trailer which is now two years old was used to launch once and has since sat in a field. It looks just like the day I got it - no rust/corrosion.

I don't think covering it with WD40 is a particularly good idea - you want the galvanising open to the elements so it can do its job
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Just for comparison. My Rapide trailer which is now two years old was used to launch once and has since sat in a field. It looks just like the day I got it - no rust/corrosion.
Thanks i was beginning to think i was mad and unreasonable
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I would expect the whole trailer to look like photo 3 and 4 and not like1 and 2.So theres no confusion all the photos you see were taken of the same trailer on the same day .Front rollers corroded rear nice and shiny.I shall go and take a photo of the strengthening bar this arfternoon .
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