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Old 22 March 2012, 08:31   #21
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Not correct - it will affect ALL drivers when towing with a B+E
Actually he is correct the way I read it.

Your entitlement to tow trailers will stay as it was when you passed your driving test.

Therefore, only people who pass their 'E' bit AFTER 19 January 2013 need to follow the new rules, which is the sub-sections headed Category BE & Category C1E.
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Old 22 March 2012, 08:43   #22
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Actually he is correct the way I read it.

Your entitlement to tow trailers will stay as it was when you passed your driving test.

Therefore, only people who pass their 'E' bit AFTER 19 January 2013 need to follow the new rules, which is the sub-sections headed Category BE & Category C1E.
Please read it again especially the bits in blue
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then they're contradicting themselves.

On the one hand, they're telling us that our B+E status won't change, then on the other hand, they're telling us that it is changing by not allowing us to tow heavier trailers.
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Old 22 March 2012, 08:58   #24
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then they're contradicting themselves.

On the one hand, they're telling us that our B+E status won't change, then on the other hand, they're telling us that it is changing by not allowing us to tow heavier trailers.
No they are not - they are specifying things very clearly which is strange for them!!

I suppose they could have put in two different sections - one for new drivers and one for existing drivers and doubled up on some of what they said
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I'm glad I've got a C+E licence. So much simpler.
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Not correct - it will affect ALL drivers when towing with a B+E

Existing car or small vehicle drivers

If you already have a licence to drive cars or small vehicles (category B and BE), you'll keep your entitlement to tow trailers. Your entitlement to tow trailers will stay as it was when you passed your driving test.
To tow heavier trailers after 19 January 2013, you'll need to follow the rules for new drivers, below.
New drivers from 19 January 2013


If you pass your test to drive cars or small vehicles up to 3,500 kilograms (kg) (category B) from 19 January 2013, you’ll be able to tow:
  • light trailers weighing no more than 750 kg
  • trailers weighing more than 750 kg, where the combined weight of the towing vehicle (car or small vehicle) and the trailer is not more than 3,500 kg
Category BE
If your trailer weighs over 750 kg and the combined trailer and towing vehicle weight is more than 3,500 kg, you’ll need to pass a further test. The trailer you tow must not be heavier than 3,500 kg. This test will be shown on your driving licence as category BE.
Category C1E
To tow a trailer weighing more than 3,500 kg with a car or small vehicle (category B), you’ll need to pass a test for category C1E.
New rules for vehicles you can drive and minimum ages : Directgov - Motoring clearly states "If you already have a driving licence, you'll keep your entitlements to drive the different types of vehicles shown on your driving licence".
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New rules for vehicles you can drive and minimum ages : Directgov - Motoring clearly states "If you already have a driving licence, you'll keep your entitlements to drive the different types of vehicles shown on your driving licence".
If you choose not to read what is written then I cannot influence that

The only saving grace is that you are unlikely to ever tow a trailer over 3500 kgs MAM with a B category vehicle and get prosecuted for doing so - unless you already have a C1+E of course
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If you choose not to read what is written then I cannot influence that

The only saving grace is that you are unlikely to ever tow a trailer over 3500 kgs MAM with a B category vehicle and get prosecuted for doing so - unless you already have a C1+E of course
I have just phoned the DVLA for clarification and been told that "existing licence holders will not be affected by the changes being introduced in January 2013"
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I looked with fresh eyes at the new rules and I'll concede it could be read either way so I have emailed DVLA to get a definitive

I will post that answer
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