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Old 29 February 2008, 11:57   #71
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[QUOTE=Hightower;239392] wonder if you RIBnet peeps could give me some advice please?

Could you post a clearer under picture of the bent ? Is it a even or uneven contour bent shape ?
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I have spoken to Ge Graff trailers and several other leading makes of boat trailers, they all seem unwilling to help me in this modification, so is there anyone else I could try?
I know of a really good guy in Chichester- Dovetail Trailers, what he doesnt know about boat trailers! Resonably priced too

His number 01243 641658 David Sheen
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I have spoken to Ge Graff trailers and several other leading makes of boat trailers, they all seem unwilling to help me in this modification, so is there anyone else I could try?
if the trailer is plated with a weight and a load weight, will any of this be affected if you make such a modification?
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if the trailer is plated with a weight and a load weight, will any of this be affected if you make such a modification?
put another way, if the rig was involved in a serious accident then the vehicle inspectorate would go through every thing with a fine tooth combe. and an insurance company shaking its head
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I know of a really good guy in Chichester- Dovetail Trailers, what he doesnt know about boat trailers! Resonably priced too

His number 01243 641658 David Sheen
That's great, I'll give him a ring.
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if the trailer is plated with a weight and a load weight, will any of this be affected if you make such a modification?
Well, it's got to change things I guess, but how do trailer companies arrive at the weight limit in the first place.

This area is obviously a weak area of construction with regard the forces applied to it in an upward direction, however in a downward direction it seems to withstand a greater load otherwise it would have bent after hitting it's first pothole.

I can't see that putting an uprated drawbar on, built of heavier box section and fixed to 6 points as opposed to 3 would be a weaker design and frowned upon by an insurance assessor providing the trailer weight plate hasn't been altered.
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Well, it's got to change things I guess, but how do trailer companies arrive at the weight limit in the first place.

This area is obviously a weak area of construction with regard the forces applied to it in an upward direction, however in a downward direction it seems to withstand a greater load otherwise it would have bent after hitting it's first pothole.

I can't see that putting an uprated drawbar on, built of heavier box section and fixed to 6 points as opposed to 3 would be a weaker design and frowned upon by an insurance assessor providing the trailer weight plate hasn't been altered.
i think the weight is obviously the weight of the trailer

and weight limit might be the limit of the axle minus the trailer weight? not sure....

i would do exactly what you are doing and then check the weights afterwards to see if it makes much difference. not sure how the insurance may view it, you may need to speak with them or someone similar. perhaps have a chat with bedajim and see what he did ref his trailer as he built that one his self

good luck with it and hope you get it sorted relatively cheaply

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I can't see that putting an uprated drawbar on, built of heavier box section and fixed to 6 points as opposed to 3 would be a weaker design and frowned upon by an insurance assessor providing the trailer weight plate hasn't been altered.
It's probably worth while telling your insurance company once you have made the 'repair' (better word to insurance types than a 'modification'). I'd guess your policy required you to inform them of any modifications. There's a good chance that they will just log your repair information but you will then be covered in the event.

If they want more info, then that's a pain but... if they come along after a prang without being told, then they may well use it as cause for not paying up. (Always supposing they can spot the repair of course - presumably no way for them to get original design specs from Admiral now).

Alternatively, have you considered whether you can claim from your insurance for a repair? (No idea about your policy / excess etc.)
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i think the weight is obviously the weight of the trailer

and weight limit might be the limit of the axle minus the trailer weight? not sure....

i would do exactly what you are doing and then check the weights afterwards to see if it makes much difference. not sure how the insurance may view it, you may need to speak with them or someone similar. perhaps have a chat with bedajim and see what he did ref his trailer as he built that one his self

good luck with it and hope you get it sorted relatively cheaply


Thanks Chris, I thing the weight limit is Gross and Net that inclues figures the load and trailer.

The load is no where near the plated maximum, so provided the Gross weight isn't breached I'll be fine.
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It's probably worth while telling your insurance company once you have made the 'repair' (better word to insurance types than a 'modification'). I'd guess your policy required you to inform them of any modifications. There's a good chance that they will just log your repair information but you will then be covered in the event.

If they want more info, then that's a pain but... if they come along after a prang without being told, then they may well use it as cause for not paying up. (Always supposing they can spot the repair of course - presumably no way for them to get original design specs from Admiral now).

Alternatively, have you considered whether you can claim from your insurance for a repair? (No idea about your policy / excess etc.)
Insurance claim might be a possibility, but I'll find out how much the work costs before entering that route as they'll claim it back in lost NCB over the next couple of years if it's only a couple of hundred.
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