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Old 20 November 2013, 17:37   #51
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Nos, am I not getting what u are saying because it's not, as per the link ? Or are u meaning if the trailer has no plate at all !?
It's the kerbweight and it was done like this to stop tail wagging the dog and to keep the weight down. The new revisions really do bring it down.
It IS as written, but it's not an easy one to understand.

Basically if you have a cat B licence only,once the MAM of the tow vehicle exceeds 2750kg, you are restricted to a 750kg MAM trailer.

The MAM of vehicles that can be driven on a cat B licence can be up to 3500kg. As a holder of a cat B licence can tow any legal unbraked (ie MAM of up to 750kg) trailer, it gives a potential MAM of 4250kg.

This is simply because a cat B licence holder can tow any legal unbraked trailer with any vehicle they can legally drive on a cat B licence, as long as the unladen weight of the tow vehicle is more than or equal to double the MAM of the trailer. For example, you can (just) legally put a 5.4m Searider on a 750kg trailer, but you can't legally tow it with a mk 1 Fiesta as 750kg is more than half the unladen weight of the Fiesta.
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Old 20 November 2013, 17:40   #52
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So you could also be in a vehicle (kerbweight which is unladen weight) of 3500kg and still tow a trailer of 750kg giving u a train mam of 4250kg !
Assuming the plated gross weight of vehicle was also 3500kg (ie it had a payload of 0kg!) then yes correct.
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Jesus Christ I'm more puzzled !!!!!
Off nissan website
unladen is : 2141kg
Gross is. : 3210kg
My trailer : 1200kg (Going off trailer decal)

Have not checked trailer to see if plated and be 3 weeks till sign off boat I'm on
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Nos your right but the vehicle is not MAM. it's unladen weight / Kerb weight for the vehicle and MAM for the trailer.

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Not correct. It is firstly the gross plated weight or the vehicle and gross plated weight of the vehicle. Only if the two combined are less than 3500kg does the kerb weight then become relevant.
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Towing vehicle MAM between 2750 and 3500kgs = 750kg trailer MAM

Tow vehicle MAM less than 2750kg then the GROSS TRAIN WEIGHT is 3500kg. Thus its 3500kg - KERB WEIGHT of tow vehicle = trailer MAM.

Tow vehicle MAM up to 2750kg has a GROSS TRAIN WEIGHT of 3500kg max.

Tow vehicle MAM between 2750 and 3500kg has a GROSS TRAIN WEIGHT of 4250kg max.

In short, if the MAM of the tow vehicle + MAM of the trailer is greater than 4250kg then you need a B+E licence.

If its less than 3500kgs the then tow vehicle KERB WEIGHT matters and it must be greater than the trailer MAM.

If the total of both the MAM's is between 3500kg and 4250kg then the trailer can only have a MAM of 750kg.
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So where do I fit into it then? Going off what I just posted off nissan website
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You fall into the tow vehicle between 2750 and 3500kgs MAM as your MAM is 3210kg.

This allows you a 750kg trailer.
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So where do I fit into it then? Going off what I just posted off nissan website
The plated gross weight of your vehicle (3210kg) falls into the 2750kg - 3500kg category, so you are limited to a trailer with a plated gross weight not exceeding 750kg.
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Right test it is unless when I go home there is a plate on trailer stating 750kg but if was would it be braked? Prob not I'm thinking
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