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Old 18 May 2004, 05:56   #21
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AL-ko part numbers

Just to note I did manage to get some of the sealed bearings from AL-KO via Dixon Bate - Gareth at DB being the guy to ask for. I wish I'd seen this type of thread first though - I had a devil of a job persuading him that these are not complete fit and forget items - "never had one fail". A wheel lost at high speed (from an older trailer) on the M6 makes you a very cautious person.

I ordered two lots of bearings last year - the first with a hub which I suspect is your only option for a roadside repair. The second set seemed to have a new AL-KO bearing part number - changed from 581169 to 1312674. And yes I confirm they both fitted! [I had a special drift turned up and have a mate with access to a hydraulic press].

Thanks v much to 'rads' for the Cavalier pointer - I shall be following that one up.

Be interesting to see how the instruction on 'no more than 2 bearing changes per hub' works out - stated as due to the degradation of the friction fit.
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Old 18 May 2004, 06:37   #22
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It's nice to see well serviced brakes, adjusters and hubs. Plenty of water resistant lubricant to keep it all working properly....It's a pity we're not seeing it here!

It's a block of rust. What do you expect?
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Old 18 May 2004, 06:57   #23
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It's nice to see well serviced brakes, adjusters and hubs. Plenty of water resistant lubricant to keep it all working properly....It's a pity we're not seeing it here!

It's a block of rust. What do you expect?
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A block of rust is what it was, and that is how I bought it. The last owner did not wash off the trailer very well, if at all. That axel is now a land fill item.
The point is, you can not (easily) service these bearings. If you can not clean & repack the bearings, you are going to finish up like this.
The new axel is due this week, and I have specified real bearings that you can service and replace without resorting to presses and hydraulic pullers.

I do feel a bit of a prat for winding up in this situation. The weather was great and I could not resist a spin. The bearings were rumbling on the way to the slip (5 miles) so i felt the hubs as soon as I got there and they were warm but not hot. I, wrongly, asumed that they would get me home again. I had the following week end booked to service the whole trailer, and I thought it would wait. How wrong can you be?
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Old 18 May 2004, 07:43   #24
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How we love Alko bearings!



It was time to check the bearings in my axle on sunday after 3 months of use. Found 'slight' traces of wear but otherwise looked fine. Got Troy (girlfriend) to do the other axle side on the basis that I want her to know what I'm looking for & also how to do it - hows that for Equality! ,

I drive it - she fixes it...

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Old 18 May 2004, 07:48   #25
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If she wants to...........

find out how to replace a whole axel?

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Old 18 May 2004, 15:08   #26
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A tip for those of you with small boats on trailers with mini wheels - check the price for new hubs and compare to the price for a bearing set, I get a new hub for just over 14 form a trailer manufacturer as opposed to a bearing set for 18.50 from a bearing factors. Worth looking at!
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Old 19 May 2004, 15:30   #27
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As another unfortunate Al-ko Euro Hub owner who realised I would not have a 3 Ton Press handy to swap bearings at the side of the road. I made the drastic decission of buying a new set of hubs and bearings that I use on the road and keep the old set for launch & recovery.

I am in the fortunate position that I only transport the boat on the road twice a year. Just another option to consider!
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Old 06 August 2004, 10:48   #28
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As Dirk seemed to find the previous info. interesting, here is full data for our wheel bearings:

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Bearing Number FLT 581169 OD 72, ID 39, Length 37
Single outer race, double inner race.
This is a 1990 1.8Vauxhall Cavalier Front Wheel Bearing

Avonride (sorry, said Indespension in previous post)
Bearing Number 309726DA OD 64, ID 34, Length 37
Single outer race, double inner race.
As fitted to Mk1 Golf front wheel bearing.

Don't throw money away going to VW or Vauxhall dealers, all independent motor factors should be able to supply these considerable cheaper.

Trailer / axle manufacturers advise that the nut used to hold the hubs onto the stub axles are a one-shot device and should not be re-used.

As a data point, and NOT a recommendation, I do re-use them and have never had one loosen. The tightening torques for these nuts is high approximately 300 Nm from memory.

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David,

OK, so I thought I'd give the cheap way a try.

From the measurements above I need a Mk1 Golf bearing, but when I get one from the local motor factor this bearing has an OD of 67mm rather than 65mm. ID and length are OK.

Any ideas?

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Old 06 August 2004, 14:16   #29
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We had similar problems are still getting them, we believe the damper setting is critical as the theory is its binding brakes leading to grease loss and bearing failure. We used taper rollers off the shelf SKF units our tame trailer epert at Bingham trailers knew of AL-KO axles etc and the Knott seals behind them. Anyone needing their contact details PM me meanwhile checkout the remains of the hub. Arrived back in Leicester on the back of a flat bed costing 360 to get back (ouch) thats when I joined the Camping and Caravan club for their arrivals policy.
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Arrived back in Leicester on the back of a flat bed costing 360 to get back (ouch) thats when I joined the Camping and Caravan club for their arrivals policy.
The AA should cover your trailer. They came out and replaced a trailer wheel (didn't have a spare on me!) recently with no fuss at all.
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