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Old 14 March 2019, 16:37   #71
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Never tried roller bunks, so can't comment.[/QUOTE]

love my what tends too be referred to as "genuine roller bunks "
just ordered my third set rb28 to replace swinging cradle on a 2015 as new extreme 1300kg trailer
reason being loading is so easy .......never put trailer wheels in past the tyre wall ,can load it off the lawn !............Bunks set so base of vee just misses axle , so nothing moving and no variables ,need a quality two speed winch for ease of loading ,I never attempt to drive the boat on the trailer as total winch on from start with engine swtched off and raised .........can present the bow to trailer at any angle and winch will pull it square .......no split pins in rollers to rust ......roller arms and rails all lightweight ally and have a lug on brackets to stop them laying wrong way .....because system is mounted on straight rails securing the tie downs is easier and more effective ,and lastly if you fit led lights to your side rails you set them as far back as you can miss the boat loading and unloading and you never have the faffing of putting them in and out as their are no variables so you will never smash them.
i am nothing to do with rollerbunk systems just a convert !
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I'd imagine the Lymingtons "nursery-paddling committee" probably know how to make lovely fairy cakes and real lemonade..
It's quite clear that you feel Lymington Harbour Authority have over reacted regarding a situation they deem a safety issue ( the mocking and belittling gives it away ), so I’m fascinated to know what you feel about the RYA and their training regarding leaving a boats controls, is the UK national governing body getting it wrong as well?? Is their safety training out of proportion?? If your unsure about their policy regarding the helm then speak to them, you might learn something
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? If your unsure about their policy regarding the helm then speak to them, you might learn something
Did..............
That's how on top of 50 years boating experience I have a commercially endorse APB. cert.

Maybe you should you should talk to them yourself and you'd learn what "while underway" means.
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Underway or making way . Underway is being steered by rudder where there is enough water. Making way is being propelled. IMHO a rib ticking over in gear is making way. Absolutely no idea where that leaves this tangle
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How about making “little way”

sorry couldn’t resist
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Underway or making way . Underway is being steered by rudder where there is enough water. Making way is being propelled. IMHO a rib ticking over in gear is making way. Absolutely no idea where that leaves this tangle

Hmmm.

"Making way: being propelled through the water by sail, machinery, or oar" .......IRPCS.


Technically "aground". so not travelling through the water.
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The way I read it is underway your afloat with no restriction, anchored moored etc. Clearly not that nosed up to a trailer with the engine on, so it must be making way, there are no other choices lol
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Did..............
That's how on top of 50 years boating experience I have a commercially endorse APB. cert.

Maybe you should you should talk to them yourself and you'd learn what "while underway" means.
BS, my RYA contact is a Safety officer whom I spoke to yesterday, there's no situation in the RYA training syllabus where the helmsman leaves the controls of a powered boat if the engines are running / in gear, its one hand on the throttle/s at all times - simple as that. He also didn't think much of the idea of abandoning the helm with the boat trying to drive forward whatever the excuses

I'm pleased to say we obviously have different standards on boating safety ( even with your 50 years of experience and extra long arms ), lets hope no-one gets hurt using this 'technique'
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BS, my RYA contact is a Safety officer whom I spoke to yesterday, there's no situation in the RYA training syllabus where the helmsman leaves the controls of a powered boat if the engines are running / in gear, its one hand on the throttle/s at all times - simple as that. He also didn't think much of the idea of abandoning the helm with the boat trying to drive forward whatever the excuses

I'm pleased to say we obviously have different standards on boating safety ( even with your 50 years of experience and extra long arms ), lets hope no-one gets hurt using this 'technique'
Really..... "your contact". Get a few years experience under your belt and start thinking things out yourself.

You have a car sitting on a wet slippery, steep ramp, probably loaded to near it's max design limit and being held by a brake operating on only two wheels that only has to, by law, be 17% efficient and you're going to stand behind it cranking a winch? Surely you can see that that is a much more likely scenario for someone to get injured?
"Power loading" (we can call it that now?) means there is NO ONE IN THE WATER so you really have to explain how someone could be injured.

If the Harbour authority are not managing the facility properly and there are people playing around on the slip then that's the issue they should be addressing.
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The way I read it is underway your afloat with no restriction, anchored moored etc. Clearly not that nosed up to a trailer with the engine on, so it must be making way, there are no other choices lol
Not afloat......sitting on the trailer completely restricted totally unable to move right or left or forward in any way shape or form.so not underway.

Not "travelling through" the water ("International Regulations for the Prevention of Collisions at Sea's" definition of making way.) so not making way.

So neither making way nor underway.

So the only option left is "loaded on the trailer awaiting road prep". (probably even get away with turning the nav lights off)....sorted
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